MaTH716 vs. -BT- (NHL Playoffs)

[IrishofNDMan]

Hockey season just started for me a few weeks ago when the playoffs began and now it has come to an end, is it football season yet?

[Danzig]

math, what's your take on torts' firing?

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Hockey season just started for me a few weeks ago when the playoffs began and now it has come to an end, is it football season yet?

so, was nd's qb cheating in class?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Danzig

math, what's your take on torts' firing?





so, was nd's qb cheating in class?

But..but....ND is too fine a school to take in Student-athletes....WHO GET THROWN OUT OF SCHOOL...

[MaTH716]

First thing, great comeback by the Hawks.
I really believe that it's down to the 4 best teams. I'm still on the anyone but Pittsburgh bandwagon. I'm actually looking forward to the Bruins Pens series, should be excellent. Kings Hawks should be a barn burner too, but I just can't stay up that late for the west coast games. I'm thinking it's LA again this year, soley because of Jonathan Quick. He's ridiculously good.

As far as Torts go, I really think that they were going to bring him back. That was until Hank opened his mouth and made it seem like next year would be his last in NY, because he wouldn't be re-signing with the team after next season. That changed the whole dynamic of the situation and thankfully the front office realized they need Hank a hell of a lot more than Torts. I also think having a viable option such as Lindy Ruff on the market, made the move a lot easier to make (gotta think he's a favorite for the job). I honestly could have went either way on Torts, my gut would have been to let him stay one more year. But it sounds like the players (most notably Hank) were the cause of his demise. I'm not losing sleep either way. But whoever is in there next year is going to have to deal with very high expectations. This is a team that should go very deep into the playoffs.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

First thing, great comeback by the Hawks.
I really believe that it's down to the 4 best teams. I'm still on the anyone but Pittsburgh bandwagon. I'm actually looking forward to the Bruins Pens series, should be excellent. Kings Hawks should be a barn burner too, but I just can't stay up that late for the west coast games. I'm thinking it's LA again this year, soley because of Jonathan Quick. He's ridiculously good.

As far as Torts go, I really think that they were going to bring him back. That was until Hank opened his mouth and made it seem like next year would be his last in NY, because he wouldn't be re-signing with the team after next season. That changed the whole dynamic of the situation and thankfully the front office realized they need Hank a hell of a lot more than Torts. I also think having a viable option such as Lindy Ruff on the market, made the move a lot easier to make (gotta think he's a favorite for the job). I honestly could have went either way on Torts, my gut would have been to let him stay one more year. But it sounds like the players (most notably Hank) were the cause of his demise. I'm not losing sleep either way. But whoever is in there next year is going to have to deal with very high expectations. This is a team that should go very deep into the playoffs.

have to say, never cared for tortorella...and i mention ruff any time there is a coaching vacancy. the guy's too good a coach not to get hired somewhere. i agree, better keep lunqvist over torts.

and you know you're doing bad when sean avery says 'i told you so'.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

First thing, great comeback by the Hawks.
I really believe that it's down to the 4 best teams. I'm still on the anyone but Pittsburgh bandwagon. I'm actually looking forward to the Bruins Pens series, should be excellent. Kings Hawks should be a barn burner too, but I just can't stay up that late for the west coast games. I'm thinking it's LA again this year, soley because of Jonathan Quick. He's ridiculously good.

As far as Torts go, I really think that they were going to bring him back. That was until Hank opened his mouth and made it seem like next year would be his last in NY, because he wouldn't be re-signing with the team after next season. That changed the whole dynamic of the situation and thankfully the front office realized they need Hank a hell of a lot more than Torts. I also think having a viable option such as Lindy Ruff on the market, made the move a lot easier to make (gotta think he's a favorite for the job). I honestly could have went either way on Torts, my gut would have been to let him stay one more year. But it sounds like the players (most notably Hank) were the cause of his demise. I'm not losing sleep either way. But whoever is in there next year is going to have to deal with very high expectations. This is a team that should go very deep into the playoffs.

they would eat that MF alive on broadway, the Sabres gave him 20+ years to win something, he'll be gone in 2 if he doesn't take the rags all the way.

i wanna say this team is gonna go off the board for a new coach, but that's never been their MO. Still think Alain Vigneault could do wonders in balancing this team out, he brings the low scoring type games to a team, much more focused defensively as most french-canadian coaches are, but does the MSG faithful really want 1-0 games night in night out?

i see Vigneault in NY and Lindy in Dallas, also, Guy Boucher is out there, guy got a bum rap in TB

-bt-

[Rudeboyelvis]

TB passed on Ruff when they fired Boucher and went in house, hiring their AHL affiliate head coach. The players just flat out quit responding to Boucher, which is a scary prospect when considering him - not that they had a great deal of talent on defense, nor have they had an NHL caliber goalie since 2004. You could tell his days were numbered here, and he should be viable candidate for a talented squad.
That said, hiring another Tampa retread may not go over to well without immediate success, so there's that to consider as well...

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by -BT-

they would eat that MF alive on broadway, the Sabres gave him 20+ years to win something, he'll be gone in 2 if he doesn't take the rags all the way.

i wanna say this team is gonna go off the board for a new coach, but that's never been their MO. Still think Alain Vigneault could do wonders in balancing this team out, he brings the low scoring type games to a team, much more focused defensively as most french-canadian coaches are, but does the MSG faithful really want 1-0 games night in night out?

i see Vigneault in NY and Lindy in Dallas, also, Guy Boucher is out there, guy got a bum rap in TB

-bt-

I feel the same way about Vigeault as you do about Ruff.
Not sure who you're talking about as being off the board. But I don't see Sather going with a reach here.
I know Ruff was in Buffalo forever, but I just don't think he really ever had the horses to win it all.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so, was nd's qb cheating in class?

Originally Posted by GBBob

But..but....ND is too fine a school to take in Student-athletes....WHO GET THROWN OUT OF SCHOOL...

Plagiarism.....but Golson made the right move when he got caught as he can be allowed back at ND. Now they'll have turnover Tommy back under center. Have to laugh at both ND and Gunner Kiel in this situation (as Kiel has transferred to Cincinnati).

Shouldn't be an issue for their team as their defense will still be towards the top with their front line that made Teo into a star intact. But their games they escaped with victories last year, may turn into hair-pulling losses this year.

As for sweeping things under the rug, ND is known to do such things, but I presume they exhausted all avenues before confronting Golson with the situation.

Oh yea.....GO HAWKS!!!

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I feel the same way about Vigeault as you do about Ruff.
Not sure who you're talking about as being off the board. But I don't see Sather going with a reach here.
I know Ruff was in Buffalo forever, but I just don't think he really ever had the horses to win it all.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

meaning they snag some up and coming coach from the AHL or something, ala Dallas Eakins.
Not sure why Tippett would want to leave that lax situation he's in in PHO for all the preasure in the world to win in NYC

paul maurice and marc crawford, gtfoh!!!!

would love love love love if they went for home run and signed Pierre McGuire, and got him out of the broadcasting booth!!!

-bt-

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by -BT-

they would eat that MF alive on broadway, the Sabres gave him 20+ years to win something, he'll be gone in 2 if he doesn't take the rags all the way.

i wanna say this team is gonna go off the board for a new coach, but that's never been their MO. Still think Alain Vigneault could do wonders in balancing this team out, he brings the low scoring type games to a team, much more focused defensively as most french-canadian coaches are, but does the MSG faithful really want 1-0 games night in night out?

i see Vigneault in NY and Lindy in Dallas, also, Guy Boucher is out there, guy got a bum rap in TB

-bt-

bump up the jam.....

-bt-

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by -BT-

bump up the jam.....

-bt-

If only your horse racing prognostication's were as good as your hockey's, you would be in pretty good shape.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

First thing, great comeback by the Hawks.
I really believe that it's down to the 4 best teams. I'm still on the anyone but Pittsburgh bandwagon. I'm actually looking forward to the Bruins Pens series, should be excellent. Kings Hawks should be a barn burner too, but I just can't stay up that late for the west coast games. I'm thinking it's LA again this year, soley because of Jonathan Quick. He's ridiculously good.

As far as Torts go, I really think that they were going to bring him back. That was until Hank opened his mouth and made it seem like next year would be his last in NY, because he wouldn't be re-signing with the team after next season. That changed the whole dynamic of the situation and thankfully the front office realized they need Hank a hell of a lot more than Torts. I also think having a viable option such as Lindy Ruff on the market, made the move a lot easier to make (gotta think he's a favorite for the job). I honestly could have went either way on Torts, my gut would have been to let him stay one more year. But it sounds like the players (most notably Hank) were the cause of his demise. I'm not losing sleep either way. But whoever is in there next year is going to have to deal with very high expectations. This is a team that should go very deep into the playoffs.

Pretty much sums up how I feel. It wasn't a slam dunk either way with Torts staying or getting canned, there are arguments for both, but Lundqvist's "we'll see" got the front office shook and Hank signing an extension has to be the #1 priority. I'd like to see Tippett in for an interview but it sounds like Phoenix is trying hard to keep him off the market.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

math, what's your take on torts' firing?





so, was nd's qb cheating in class?

Cheating/plagiarism I guess. I'm sure he's not the first student athlete to do so and I'm also sure some other schools would have just swept it under the rug for their starting qb. I give ND credit for how they handled this and hope to see Golson back in a year.