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Old 06-14-2006, 10:24 AM
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The NYRA is about as corrupt as you can get. The reason they want to be a "not for profit organization" is because they wont have to answer to anyone. Horse Racing is a business and it shouldnt be run by a group that is not for profit. Plus as a not for profit they do not have to pay taxes. No way should the NYRA be not for profit. That is a JOKE.

Stronach has all the money in the world to buy the New York Tracks. His MEC isnt doing all that well because they keep taking one time charges that hurt their bottom line. Just read the MEC end of year report from 2005 and it explains all that.

Churchill only charges $2 to get in the doors with the exception of Derby and Oaks day. You can get in on Derby day for $40. Travers is costs $25 to get it. So only $15 more for the biggest horse race in the world. That is not a bad deal at all.

Churchill also doesnt need a detention barn because of their new drug policy. So a detention barn is pointless in Kentucky.
NYRA is " not for profit " as per the statute set by the State.

Try to learn at least one fact.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:26 AM
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NYRA is " not for profit " as per the statute set by the State.

Try to learn at least one fact.

Sure. The organized crime groups paid off the politicians. What is the purpose of a non-profit group? If it is to lose money than NYRA deserves its non profit status.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:29 AM
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NYRA is " not for profit " as per the statute set by the State.

Try to learn at least one fact.
Come on Black, you are smarter than that. The NYRA lobbied to have that not profit statute in place in order for them to run the tracks. It is all political. But whoever runs the tracks should not be not for profit.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:33 AM
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Dont forget the 10 dollar cokes and hot dogs on derby and oaks day, as well as the admission on those days.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:36 AM
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Dont forget the 10 dollar cokes and hot dogs on derby and oaks day, as well as the admission on those days.
The KY Derby is in the category with the Superbowl, World Series, NBA Championship. People pay for the best of the best. The Travers is like AA baseball. The only big race NYRA has all year depends on if the KY Derby winner shows up going for a triple crown. Lets see, 150,000 people in KY or 60,000 people in NY (where the population is 8 million). NYRA is a crooked non-profit. I bet you are a Republican who goes around saying how business should run everything, except when there is an opportunity for corrupt non-profits.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:57 AM
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Dont forget the 10 dollar cokes and hot dogs on derby and oaks day, as well as the admission on those days.
The concessions at churchill are contracted out by a thrid party vendor. Churchill has nothing to do with that. But again, it is Derby.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:03 AM
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It is far from clear that Churchill is an interested party.

Understand, unless the statute is changed to a " for-profit " entity there will be no bidders.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:05 AM
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It is far from clear that Churchill is an interested party.

Understand, unless the statute is changed to a " for-profit " entity there will be no bidders.
The statute is nothing. That can be changed easily and will be changed. And I know for a fact that CDSI is interested. In fact, I know exactly when they are going to bid.

Now, keep a close eye on Delaware North Group. They are sneaky and have a shot at winning the bid.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:07 AM
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NY racing wants to keep NY racing money in NY for NY racing.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:08 AM
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The statute is nothing. That can be changed easily and will be changed. And I know for a fact that CDSI is interested. In fact, I know exactly when they are going to bid.

Now, keep a close eye on Delaware North Group. They are sneaky and have a shot at winning the bid.
Exactly. Money will always trump some ridiculous statute. Someone is going to win a bidding war. Way too much money involved with slots for the state to not take the quick payment rather than wait years for the money.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:14 AM
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The statute is nothing. That can be changed easily and will be changed. And I know for a fact that CDSI is interested. In fact, I know exactly when they are going to bid.

Yeah right...on all counts.

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Old 06-14-2006, 01:21 PM
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The concessions at churchill are contracted out by a thrid party vendor. Churchill has nothing to do with that. But again, it is Derby.
E/B,

You're out of your element here 'bounce. Levy Restaurants is the CDI foodservice operator. Larry Levy was brought in when Dick Duchesois became an integral part of the "CDI family"... Levy runs EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT of the foodservice operation at CD, and brings in several concessionaires like my Carolina Barbecue on the big days to supplement the existing F&B options. CDI has plenty to do with the decisions involving the foodservice. THey have something to do with absolutely everything that goes on around 4th and Central. They are exceedingly corporate.

They also have no shot getting involved in NY. No single entity is going to "win" the NY bid. And the existing NY entity WILL be heavily involved in the final re-design of NYRA...
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:03 PM
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E/B,

You're out of your element here 'bounce. Levy Restaurants is the CDI foodservice operator. Larry Levy was brought in when Dick Duchesois became an integral part of the "CDI family"... Levy runs EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT of the foodservice operation at CD, and brings in several concessionaires like my Carolina Barbecue on the big days to supplement the existing F&B options. CDI has plenty to do with the decisions involving the foodservice. THey have something to do with absolutely everything that goes on around 4th and Central. They are exceedingly corporate.

They also have no shot getting involved in NY. No single entity is going to "win" the NY bid. And the existing NY entity WILL be heavily involved in the final re-design of NYRA...
Kasept I am well aware of your BBQ stand and it is very very good by the way. However, when it comes to the pricing of the product the final say is determined by Dick. I know CDSI is very corporate and they decided who gets the contract. But the pricing is not soley determined by CDSI.
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