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Old 04-10-2013, 10:18 PM
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You knew Joe Drape would be all over this.

This is the only type of racing story he seems to like.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:44 PM
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This could all be coincidence. If Baffert has such a high number of questionable deaths why isn't someone doing something about it.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:51 PM
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24 horses a week die at America’s racetracks. How is this number acceptable to anyone?
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24 horses a week die at America’s racetracks. How is this number acceptable to anyone?
Other then zero what is acceptable? Its a brutal sport. I love it and horses are going to die.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:37 AM
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Other then zero what is acceptable? Its a brutal sport. I love it and horses are going to die.
Understand that the '24 horses a week dying at America's racetracks' is a wholly phony number the Times manufactured with the mythic 'study' of result charts.
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Understand that the '24 horses a week dying at America's racetracks' is a wholly phony number the Times manufactured with the mythic 'study' of result charts.
Yes I am aware that the fig is KAKA but there is a real fig and it does contain dead horses. Moreover I believe we should accept that horses die from training for and competing in horse races. What no one should accept or excuse is the abuse of horses. Simply not OK.. The fact that some will die while being given the finest of care and treatment is brutally acceptable.
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Yes I am aware that the fig is KAKA but there is a real fig and it does contain dead horses. Moreover I believe we should accept that horses die from training for and competing in horse races. What no one should accept or excuse is the abuse of horses. Simply not OK.. The fact that some will die while being given the finest of care and treatment is brutally acceptable.
Absolutely. Well put Fred.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:05 AM
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Yes I am aware that the fig is KAKA but there is a real fig and it does contain dead horses. Moreover I believe we should accept that horses die from training for and competing in horse races. What no one should accept or excuse is the abuse of horses. Simply not OK.. The fact that some will die while being given the finest of care and treatment is brutally acceptable.
you're exactly right. it's not always pretty, that's for sure. but it's the truth.
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This could all be coincidence. If Baffert has such a high number of questionable deaths why isn't someone doing something about it.
Yeah, because "somebody" always does something in horse racing, it is such a tightly run ship.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:52 PM
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Do you think that B.B is feeding his horses rat poison to get them to run better?
Get them to "Mask" some other drug?
Get them to heal or have some other "Edge" that others don't have or will use?
Is this just a shot at a highly successful trainer with a high profile?
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Do you think that B.B is feeding his horses rat poison to get them to run better?
Get them to "Mask" some other drug?
Get them to heal or have some other "Edge" that others don't have or will use?
Is this just a shot at a highly successful trainer with a high profile?
The numbers seem very high for one trainer. I am surprised and disturbed by it.
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The numbers seem very high for one trainer. I am surprised and disturbed by it.
What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.
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What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.
What does that have to do with Baffert?
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What does that have to do with Baffert?
Nothing at all. That doesn’t make it irrelevant though. Look at Todd just this last week. A champion and a Grade 1 winner this year. Both out extended periods of time with injuries. Would anyone be surprised if we don’t see either horse ever again?
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Nothing at all. That doesn’t make it irrelevant though. Look at Todd just this last week. A champion and a Grade 1 winner this year. Both out extended periods of time with injuries. Would anyone be surprised if we don’t see either horse ever again?
Who said it was irrelevant? People have been talking about your point for a long time. Where have you been?

It has nothing to do with the topic. The topic is your man crush.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:51 AM
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Nothing at all. That doesn’t make it irrelevant though. Look at Todd just this last week. A champion and a Grade 1 winner this year. Both out extended periods of time with injuries. Would anyone be surprised if we don’t see either horse ever again?
If we didn't it would be more of a reflection of the value of the horses as breeding stock than because they are trained by Pletcher.
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What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.
a wholly separate subject. has nothing to do with what is a very odd situation with baffert right now.
and your reaction is one of the things wrong with the sport. people who like a trainer don't want things to be true-but it doesn't make it untrue.
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a wholly separate subject. has nothing to do with what is a very odd situation with baffert right now.
and your reaction is one of the things wrong with the sport. people who like a trainer don't want things to be true-but it doesn't make it untrue.
Your right. I like Baffert, I defend him. Some of the things I have read recently do bother me, regarding Bob.
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Your right. I like Baffert, I defend him. Some of the things I have read recently do bother me, regarding Bob.
why would you defend someone you don't even know? you don't know what he's doing-why would you go out on that limb?
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What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.
Only talking about Baffert here, Pletcher is another story.
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