4/6 (SA): SA Derby, Oaks (G1's), Protrero Grande (G2), Providencia (G3)

[cakes44]

Nice ride by Krigger IMO.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Nice ride by Krigger IMO.

Nice hang by Flashback.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Nice hang by Flashback.

Taken out of his running style.He is clearly not a stalk and pounce horse.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Taken out of his running style.He is clearly not a stalk and pounce horse.

But isn't that why they changed riders? You think dueling up front was the way to go again?

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

But isn't that why they changed riders? You think dueling up front was the way to go again?

Nope...I think the new tactics were worth a shot. I just don't think he's good enough period. But I do think he is probably at his best, wherever that ranks, when he's out front.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Nope...I think the new tactics were worth a shot. I just don't think he's good enough period. But I do think he is probably at his best, wherever that ranks, when he's out front.

Disagree. He rated kindly. Ranged up, looked like a winner and hung badly.

[cakes44]

So you assume that because he rated well, that is the style best suited to him, even though he hung badly. Or do you believe he'll finish better next time?

I'm not saying he didn't hang. He clearly did.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Nice ride by Krigger IMO.

Goldencents is just a damn good horse.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should bother watching the replay of the Delta Jackpot.

http://www1.drf.com/displayVideo.do?...=D&country=USA

He carves out real fractions on the lead... pay attention to Mylute (the eventual 2nd place finisher of the Louisiana Derby) ... Mylute was a long way dead last, and he makes an Arazi look move on the far turn, and Goldencents gets away from him in the stretch.

Mylute might be a hanger, he had Revolutionary all but put away in the Louisiana Derby, but let him off of the hook in deep stretch. But Goldencents hung up another good horse in the stretch today.

It'smyluckyday, a big speed figure horse, was nowhere with a clear wide trip in that Delta Jackpot, and he came back and won two stakes at Gulfstream before finishing 2nd as the 8/5 favorite in the Florida Derby last week.

In terms of style and ability ... Goldencents looks a whole lot like I'll Have Another going into the Derby last year. The only difference, I'll Have Another proved he could be taken back and fire in Louisville when he was forced into those tactics for the first time.

The pace dynamics are a lot different in this Derby, there's no Trinniberg and Bodemiester ... but there's usually one horse every year who responds very favorably to the change in tactics, while a lot of others completely bomb.

Goldencents, like I'll Have Another last year, goes into the Derby with a wildcard look.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Goldencents is just a damn good horse.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should bother watching the replay of the Delta Jackpot.

http://www1.drf.com/displayVideo.do?...=D&country=USA

He carves out real fractions on the lead... pay attention to Mylute (the eventual 2nd place finisher of the Louisiana Derby) ... Mylute was a long way dead last, and he makes an Arazi look move on the far turn, and Goldencents gets away from him in the stretch.

Mylute might be a hanger, he had Revolutionary all but put away in the Louisiana Derby, but let him off of the hook in deep stretch. But Goldencents hung up another good horse in the stretch today.

It'smyluckyday, a big speed figure horse, was nowhere with a clear wide trip in that Delta Jackpot, and he came back and won two stakes at Gulfstream before finishing 2nd as the 8/5 favorite in the Florida Derby last week.

In terms of style and ability ... Goldencents looks a whole lot like I'll Have Another going into the Derby last year. The only difference, I'll Have Another proved he could be taken back and fire in Louisville when he was forced into those tactics for the first time.

The pace dynamics are a lot different in this Derby, there's no Trinniberg and Bodemiester ... but there's usually one horse every year who responds very favorably to the change in tactics, while a lot of others completely bomb.

Goldencents, like I'll Have Another last year, goes into the Derby with a wildcard look.

I was just thinking about what the pace will be like this year with the new point system keeping out the sprinters and there looking to be no Bodemeister-like horse winning the major point races. One would think the tactic changer trying to win this year would be one going wire to wire, no?

Originally Posted by cakes44

Nice ride by Krigger IMO.

Agreed. Very Confident and in this case took Gomez to school.