Has any horse in history ever done less & was 12/1 to win the Derby two months out?

[Calzone Lord]

Based on what can be measured after just 2 starts, I don't see anything to suggest Flashback is a better horse than fellow Baffert Governor Charlie.

A lot of stable hype has been there with Flashback since the start of his career.

[Linny]

Verrazzano was favored and hasn't run in a stake yet.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Linny

Verrazzano was favored and hasn't run in a stake yet.

Yes, but his most recent race was fantastic.

A horse he beat by 16.5 lengths last time just won an entry level alw race on dirt at Gulfstream last Saturday.

His figure was huge on everyones numbers and the performance was confirmed.

With Flashback, it is more about stable buzz and how he trains.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yes, but his most recent race was fantastic.

A horse he beat by 16.5 lengths last time just won an entry level alw race on dirt at Gulfstream last Saturday.

His figure was huge on everyones numbers and the performance was confirmed.

With Flashback, it is more about stable buzz and how he trains.

If I had to choose between the two, I would rather have Baffert as my trainer.