dear bernardini fans....

[todko]

Originally Posted by Cardus

And the track did slow down considerably after the sprint. -- DAHoss9698

How do people know that the track slows or quickens during a day, minus a recognizable, tangible weather change, like rain or wind increase/decrease? This is what gets me about "split variants."

Why was the track at Churchill Downs slower after the Sprint? What atmospheric condition changed the composition of the dirt? What man-made change was observed that changed the distribution of the track surface?

There were two races run on dirt after the Sprint, neither of which resulted in a superficially fast time. Is it possible -- and given that most people considered Round Pond a fluky winner it is not unreasonable to suspect -- that the performances were sub-par?

While we can debate a lot of what Todko wrote -- or ridicule, based upon follow-up posts --I think that variant/speed figure portions of his post invite debate.

Thanks Cardus. It seems that the people who lost money on Bernardini have nothing left but resorting to insults. I called it beforehand. They bought the hype while I bought the winning ticket.

That nearly instantaneous slowdown in a track's surface is merely an excuse used often by poor handicappers. If the track moved in any way it should have been faster later in the day. Churchill did have rain that week.

You can't base a dependent variable (speed figure) on an iffy independent variable (track variant). To put it simply, horses are not quantifiable. If they were, we'd know in advance which horse was going to win. Not even the best supercomputer crunching the best numbers (throw Trakus in there too) will ever be able to predict which horse will win with much more than 30% accuracy.

If you bet the speed figures you are a fool. Bernardini is proof positive.

[todko]

Jazil versus Bernardini. That's one event that really would cause me to consider a home equity loan. Yeah, I'd throw the house in on Jazil. Particularly if it was 10f or above. Here's another one. Birdstone versus Bernardini. I'd throw my mom's house in on that one too. On Birdstone.

And I'd be laughing all the way to the bank . . . kinda like I did on November 4th.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by todko

Jazil versus Bernardini. That's one event that really would cause me to consider a home equity loan. Yeah, I'd throw the house in on Jazil. Particularly if it was 10f or above. Here's another one. Birdstone versus Bernardini. I'd throw my mom's house in on that one too. On Birdstone.

And I'd be laughing all the way to the bank . . . kinda like I did on November 4th.

I'm sure you were laughing all the way to the bank... you act like the horse is some kind of rat. He finished 2nd to a very nice horse. Your post last night had me laughing my ass off... thanks. Jazil and Birdstone? Give me a break!

[todko]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm sure you were laughing all the way to the bank... you act like the horse is some kind of rat. He finished 2nd to a very nice horse. Your post last night had me laughing my ass off... thanks. Jazil and Birdstone? Give me a break!

Hey, Birdstone got 2:27 in the Belmont while chasing fast mid-race fractions. Jazil ran the Churchill 10f at close to Bernardini's time in the Classic while coming through traffic from dead last in the Derby. And also 6 months earlier.

I'm very serious. I'd take either of them versus the "wonderhorse" Bernardini.

Invasor is decent. After all, he did break 2:02 for 10f. Stunning. Triple Crown winner too. Uruguay.

[ateamstupid]

You can actually smell and taste this dude's hatred. It's unbelievable.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You can actually smell and taste this dude's hatred. It's unbelievable.

I just don't get it. It's a horse he hates!

[ArlJim78]

I don't hate any horses. I just want to request that in the future we use the term Bernardinians instead of Bernardini fans. I think it sounds cool.

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You can actually smell and taste this dude's hatred. It's unbelievable.

ateamstupid,
this todko's insanity is so unbelievable that it has brought the two of us together on a thread about bernardini!! i wouldn't have thought it was possible.
then he says we must be people that lost money on bern. ha!!! i was calling invasor to win it for days before the race. i even had it as my freakin' signature. i don't remember him calling anything, but then he comes on here and starts talking about jazil.....a horse that couldn't beat steppenwolfer going 10f. what a joke.
i am a big part of the anti-bern camp on this board. i ask all of you not to judge us by the uneducated rantings of this "todko" person.
by the way....i have always liked the term "bernmafia" for the crazy fans of this horse.