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[jms62]

Do people earning an average of 2.4 MILLION dollars a year really need a union?

[golfer]

I predict this will get settled within the next 10 days. Both sides realize losing a full season is MORONIC.

The deal the players will have to settle for won't be great, but it's not like it will get better next year after missing a full season.

I agree that player salaries are relatively enormous, and that cutting them by any relatively small percentage won't hurt anyone tremendously. But what will be accomplished is the big market owners will benefit GREATLY, while the teams, and thereby the fans of said teams, will be hurt significantly. Because with the lower salary cap, top big market teams won't be able to keep their top players.

And without any significant profit sharing, the smaller markets will still struggle.

This is what Boston's Jeremy Jacobs is ring-leading.

But for the players, there is no alternative.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Cardus

And if you wanted to argue that owners with multiple income streams will not soften their stance in, let's say, six months time -- just a hypothetical argument on your part -- then doesn't that apply to owners in other sports, too? Not every strike/lockout/stalemate has resulted in players being routed by owners.

My point is that it you might be right that the lockout will end soon with the players taking whatever is offered, but it is not necessarily inevitable.

The point you are missing here is the sides are ridiculously close on most issues right now. Bettman was furious that Fehr, a pro, wouldn't simply cave in on the other "non-negotiable" issues once the 50/50 issue was approved. The major problems now are length of CBA (Bettman wants 10 years, Fehr wants 5), and max length of contracts (Bettman wants 5, Fehr has offered 7).

These would seem to be easily negotiated to a compromise, no?

So we aren't in a situation where the players need to "take whatever is offered".

Which is why it seems so obvious that this will be settled shortly..... Or not

[Danzig]

i'm hopeful that a deal will be reached soon. recent moves have been positive, so i'm hoping for the best at this point.

[golfer]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...icle-1.1234211

[MaTH716]

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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

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just in time...football winding down, i was beginning to worry about how i'd spend february and march.

[slotdirt]

The schedules currently listed on team's websites will have to be modified, correct? So the freaking Penguins don't get a 10 game homestand as was prescribed by the original schedule?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

The schedules currently listed on team's websites will have to be modified, correct? So the freaking Penguins don't get a 10 game homestand as was prescribed by the original schedule?

Yes, schedules to be announced. Play each division team 7 times and home and home with other teams in conference is being mentioned. No Eastern Conference vs. Western Conference this year is almost a sure thing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

Do people earning an average of 2.4 MILLION dollars a year really need a union?

Based on the last 10 years of behavior by the owners and commissioner, absolutely.

I dont understand the infatution with salaries. Whatever the players get is fair. No one holds a gun to owners heads to sign them. The biggest fallacy there is in sports is that fans costs go up because of higher salaries. That is nonsense. The prices go up to whatever the market will bear regarless of expenses. When salaries are cut no ticket discounts are given