Obama - 20 brand new F-16's; part of 1B Aid package for the Muslim Brotherhood

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I think this is Congress, not Obama, yes? As Congress allots funding/aid and where it goes.

So the Iraq war was not Bush but congress?

Or do only republican Presidents allocate military funding?

GM bailout, extending unemployment benefits, payroll tax cut, cash for clunkers, Obamacare etc etc. are those congress as well?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

So the Iraq war was not Bush but congress?

Or do only republican Presidents allocate military funding?

GM bailout, extending unemployment benefits, payroll tax cut, cash for clunkers, Obamacare etc etc. are those congress as well?

well, yes, dell. it is congress and not just the president. thanks for catching on, finally.
or you can keep blaming just obama. i'm sure you took umbrage when people only blamed bush...so, you know, do the same thing. but it's different, cause it's a democrat. right?

[GenuineRisk]

Someone needs a refresher in Civics 101. To wit:

Originally Posted by dellinger63

So the Iraq war was not Bush but congress?

Congress authorized, yes. Oct 16, 2002.

Or do only republican Presidents allocate military funding?

No President allocates military funding. Congress allocates all funding. It's in the Constitution. Look it up.

GM bailout, extending unemployment benefits, payroll tax cut, cash for clunkers, Obamacare etc etc. are those congress as well?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And depending on what your "etc. etc" are, probably yes and yes as well.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Someone needs a refresher in Civics 101. To wit:



Congress authorized, yes. Oct 16, 2002.



No President allocates military funding. Congress allocates all funding. It's in the Constitution. Look it up.



Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And depending on what your "etc. etc" are, probably yes and yes as well.

Not Bush's war....

Congress's Cash for Clunkers

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Not Bush's war....

Congress's Cash for Clunkers

The president submits a budget proposal every year. Of course the actual budget is done by congress. The president also is the one to ask for military intervention. I don't think a president has ever been denied a war resolution or military request by congress.
So, its not bushes war, or obamas (except maybe the libya action for a fairly recent example, since i do not think obama ever went to congress about that) but that doesn't mean its all on congress either.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Someone needs a refresher in Civics 101. To wit:



Congress authorized, yes. Oct 16, 2002.
but it will forever be know as Bush's War!



No President allocates military funding. Congress allocates all funding. It's in the Constitution. Look it up.



Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And depending on what your "etc. etc" are, probably yes and yes as well.

Yes, indeed..

[lord007]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...on-protesters/....Hey atleast they are using buckshot!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by lord007

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...on-protesters/....Hey atleast they are using buckshot!!!

birdshot isn't buckshot. and no protesters engaged in a sit in should be shot with anything.

[dellinger63]

Didn't Dick Cheney use birdshot to shoot his friend?

BTW much better to be shot with birdshot rather than buckshot but buckshot beats the hell out of slugs.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Didn't Dick Cheney use birdshot to shoot his friend?

BTW much better to be shot with birdshot rather than buckshot but buckshot beats the hell out of slugs.

Yes, he did. I don't think you would want to be shot with any of it, if it was close range. Even birdshot could kill you, if you're close enough and damn sure has the potential to blind you. Friend of mine got shot in the mid-chest area while turkey hunting. Docs were able to remove a lot of the shot, but not all. They just left it in and eventually it worked its way out. He was in a bad way for awhile. Had recently divorced. Ex-wife felt so sorry for him, she moved back in for awhile to take care of him.