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Old 11-14-2006, 01:20 PM
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7 1/2 panels on up is a route race...I believe the Ack Ack was 7 1/2 furlongs and it was around one-turn...these are generally specialists distances when they are around one-turn....some sprinters can be fooled by the one-turn and carry their speed longer - but most legit sprinters (6-7 furlong horses) will fade at this trip....However, many two-turn horses can't get up in time around a one-turn route race because of the pace scenario, etc. leaves them at a greater disadvantage than a two-turn race...

Many horses cannot negotiate the second turn with effectiveness and cannot get a mile around two turns as well as a mile around one turn.....BEL always brings out the specialists IMO because they run 1 1/8-mile, one-turn events.....

Horses with a high-cruising speed and stamina generally get this trip, or the opposite - ones who have a stout one-turn closing punch who do not have the stamina to negotiate the second turn....
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:24 PM
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The Ack Ack is a mile, I believe.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:29 PM
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The Ack Ack is a mile, I believe.
You're correct. It's one mile...
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:36 PM
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You're correct. It's one mile...
Yeah, it used to be 7 1/2 furlongs for the longest time and they changed to a mile, which is about the same thing IMO....the outcome of the race at 7 1/2 is just as likely at a one-turn mile trip IMO......kinda like a mile around two turns and a mile and 70 yards around two turns...not much different from the dynamic of the race....

Actually, as a tidbit - I do remember Bredar changing this race to a mile now.....they also want to get rid of the Ack Ack name (because there are like 3 races around the country named Ack Ack) and they were seriously thinking about changing it to the Muhammed Ali Mile (or maybe just the Ali Mile)....I'll have to find out what happened to that....I hate to say it but maybe they are waiting for him to pass away first....you never know...CD loves publicity as much as the next publicly traded company does......
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:46 PM
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Yeah, it used to be 7 1/2 furlongs for the longest time and they changed to a mile, which is about the same thing IMO....the outcome of the race at 7 1/2 is just as likely at a one-turn mile trip IMO......kinda like a mile around two turns and a mile and 70 yards around two turns...not much different from the dynamic of the race....

Actually, as a tidbit - I do remeber Bredar changing this race to a mile now.....they also want to get rid of the Ack Ack name (because there are like 3 races aroungg the country named Ack Ack) and they were seriously thinking about changing it to the Muhammed Ali Mile (or maybe just the Ali Mile)....I'll have to find out what happened to that....I hate to say it but maybe they are waiting for him to pass away first....you never know...CD loves publicity as much as the next publicly traded company does......
Agreed about the minute difference between a mile and 7 1/2 furlongs... it's only a 100m difference... hardly enough to have a major effect IMO.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:51 PM
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Agreed about the minute difference between a mile and 7 1/2 furlongs... it's only a 100m difference... hardly enough to have a major effect IMO.
Yeah, and the 100m is in the already long run down the backstretch (a hair closer out of the chute)....the finish from the far turn to the wire is the same - and from what is about the same pace scenario and race set up early on.....almost no affecting difference...
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On dirt, Frankel is aiming Juddmonte-owned Latent Heat to the Grade 1, seven-furlong Malibu on Dec. 26 at Santa Anita. Latent Heat earned triple-digit Beyer Figures in two straight before finishing ninth, with an alibi, in the Perryville Stakes on Oct. 13 at Keeneland.

"He came out of the race sick," Frankel said. "He's going to run in the Malibu, and he will win."
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