Would you rather win a Kentucky Derby of BC Classic?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Again, the horses that excel the flat mile route, will be the ones people go to in the breeding shed for the future. You heard it here first!

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

I believe Danzig was in his very short career, also more recently Gulch, but some may say he isn't great yet. The future wave of great sire will probably be milers.

The future wave will contain very few milers. It will be all classic distance horses.

Smarty Jones, FuPeg, GZ, Giants Causeway, are the 4 horses that will dominate the next decade.

My sleeper who we invested in heavily this year is Grand Slam, who I believe will become one of the elites in the next few years.

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Again, the horses that excel the flat mile route, will be the ones people go to in the breeding shed for the future. You heard it here first!

Like who, Yankee Victor? Name the horses that excel at a mile over the last 5 years that will be great sires. GZ is not a miler either. Never was.

[packerbacker7964]

Can't remember if he's still alive but Our Emblem and not to forget War Chant. Both great sires of turf and dirt.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

I would much rather win on Breeder's Cup day. I love that day. It is the best betting day of the year!

Originally Posted by Scav

Here comes our first brawl

I would never argue handicapping, but when it comes to pedigrees and breeding I know my stuff. Have to or I would be out of a job.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Both Smarty and FuPeg were out of very good milers. Grand Slam wasn't a bad one himself, but didn't win over a mile an a eighth did he?

Originally Posted by Scav

In Excess and Honour and Glory are SOLID SOLID producers, both get at least 1 Grade 1 winner a year (this is not a fact, assumed but a solid assumption)

In Excess and H&G have produced very little. H&G is a $12,500 sire and always will be.

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Both Smarty and FuPeg were out of very good milers. Grand Slam wasn't a bad one himself, but didn't win over a mile an a eighth did he?

Smarty and FuPeg are not milers. EQ was actually a sprinter with 6-7F his best distance. I know that you aren't calling Mr. Prospector a miler. He was an incredible sprinter, especially at 6F.

As for Grand Slam, the Peter Pan (9f) was the longest he went and won.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

But, will that one win going this distance make him a "classic" distance sire?

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Can't remember if he's still alive but Our Emblem and not to forget War Chant. Both great sires of turf and dirt.

Our Emblem might have an affect on Brazilian racing but not American. War Chant is too young to evaluate but I am not thrilled with him unless you are a Danzig guy. 60K is too much for what he is producing. I guess Brilliant isn't too shabby, but nothing else really impresses me.

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

But, will that one win going this distance make him a "classic" distance sire?

He really isn't in that elite category like the Classic Winners. Cafe Olympus and Strong Hope were two big runners though so we think he is a great value.

I would guess that 90% (or more) of owners would rather win the KY Derby than the BCC. Could be a good concept for the "Deal or No Deal" franchise!

Trainers and jockeys want to win the races with the biggest purses (as well they should).

Lansdon