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Old 11-06-2012, 10:51 PM
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looks like missouri had a way to shut akin down. mcaskill projected to win there.


mass. looks like it will pass the medical marijuana initiative. here in arkansas, looks like a narrow defeat which is too bad. try again in a few years, maybe it'll pass then. surprised it was so close, since there are still many counties in the state that are dry.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:22 PM
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Most agree the country has major issues and we are headed in the wrong direction. For those that are celebrating tonight realize that almost the exact same situation still exists in Washington as it did yesterday and that the tactics used to win this election will further the demise of the election process and in turn the country in general. No one should be proud of your country tonight. We re-elected the staus quo. More or less we brought Andy Reid and staff back for 4 more years. Similar results should be expected.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:35 PM
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More or less we brought Andy Reid and staff back for 4 more years. Similar results should be expected.
Andy Reid's had just one losing season in the last 13 years. He's made the playoffs nine times since 2000. He's won 60% of his games as an NFL coach in the toughest and most competitive league in pro sports.

You respect Obama far more than I had thought.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:40 PM
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Andy Reid's had just one losing season in the last 13 years. He's made the playoffs nine times since 2000. He's won 60% of his games as an NFL coach in the toughest and most competitive league in pro sports.

You respect Obama far more than I had thought.
Clearly Reid should have been replaced last year as his team is and has been underachieving and is heading in the wrong direction. Same thing for Obama and Congress. Hard to have much hope that anything is going to get done for at least 2 more years.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:43 PM
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why is everyone so upset that we re-elected a moderate republican?
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:44 PM
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why is everyone so upset that we re-elected a moderate republican?
The facade will come off since he doesnt have to run for office anymore.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:46 PM
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The facade will come off since he doesnt have to run for office anymore.
and pass what through the house?
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:39 PM
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why is everyone so upset that we re-elected a moderate republican?
Obama is nearly the ideal Eisenhower Republican
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Most agree the country has major issues and we are headed in the wrong direction.
Actually, most agreed that Obama was leading the country in the right direction, and want him to continue

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For those that are celebrating tonight realize that almost the exact same situation still exists in Washington as it did yesterday and that the tactics used to win this election will further the demise of the election process and in turn the country in genera
l.

The billion from 15 large donors, and multiple SuperPacs; lost to the under a billion from hundreds of thousands of small donors, and one SuperPac whose contributors were voluntarily released. That's the good news on the Citizen's United front.

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No one should be proud of your country tonight. We re-elected the staus quo. More or less we brought Andy Reid and staff back for 4 more years. Similar results should be expected.
Harry Reid has already agreed to filibuster reform this time. He said he was wrong 2 years ago not to do it. Boeher got rid of his craziest extremists, and now has some who are more willing to compromise. The President knows the GOP won't deal and won't give a shiat. He'll make the offer, and if they refuse, he'll do without them.
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Actually, most agreed that Obama was leading the country in the right direction, and want him to continue

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The billion from 15 large donors, and multiple SuperPacs; lost to the under a billion from hundreds of thousands of small donors, and one SuperPac whose contributors were voluntarily released. That's the good news on the Citizen's United front.



Harry Reid has already agreed to filibuster reform this time. He said he was wrong 2 years ago not to do it. Boeher got rid of his craziest extremists, and now has some who are more willing to compromise. The President knows the GOP won't deal and won't give a shiat. He'll make the offer, and if they refuse, he'll do without them.
Extreme partisans such as yourself are delusional to believe this nonsense. 6 billion dollars was just spent to more or less divide the country further and more decisively. Winning this election doesn't mean that Democrats are on the right path. More than anything it just means that they narrowly got more votes chiefly because they were able to goad the GOP into fighting over bullshit like abortion. Because they ran a better campaign doesnt mean they are correct or that things are going to get better. The politicians arent the problem, the problem is the people who they have to appeal to in order to get votes. The victory lap taken this morning is typical myopic thinking. Obama and company arent a good choice, they are one of the worst groups of politicans in our country's history. Problem is that there are only 2 choices and the other one is too stupid to realize you cant win by telling the truth until it was too late to make up the difference.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:31 PM
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Extreme partisans such as yourself are delusional to believe this nonsense. 6 billion dollars was just spent to more or less divide the country further and more decisively.
I'm not an "extreme partisan" simply because I don't embrace the John Birch Society wing of the former GOP.

Like many have described, Obama fits very nicely with moderate Republicans. Why I voted for him. Why Colin Powell endorsed him. Why most major newspapers in the country endorsed him.

This country isn't divided - from my point of view, it's been brought more together. The wingnut extremists were thrown out of office. When you have Fox News calling Karl Rove extreme, there's plenty of hope. If they can lay off the crazy talk, and people like Donald Trump stop calling for revolution because they lost an election, the rest of us can continue to work. There were historic accomplishments Obama's first term, and it will continue.

The United States is unique as even our Democrats are considered rather conservative in the other first world countries. Like me being called "extreme". It's absurd.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:50 PM
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Final entrants: most accurate electoral count of winner - without going over - wins this.

328 Romney - Old Dog
311 Romney - joeydb
302 Obama - jms62
292 Obama - Antitrust
291 Obama - hi im god
288 Obama - Riot
287 Obama - Ocala Mike
281 Obama - dalakhani
278 Romney - Rupert Pumpkin
277 Obama - Calzone Lord
274 Romney - Dylbert
273 Romney - Rudeboyelvis
269 tie to Romney - clipclop

And the winner of the National Presidential Election Contest thread is ....

... Old Dog !


Final count was 332 Obama landslide to 206 Romney.

Old Dog - there is no prize, but our humble admiration. Congratulations on your political acumen.

Although you got the wrong party.

But still - well done
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In the choice between Freedom and "Free Stuff", Free Stuff won.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:01 PM
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In the choice between Freedom and "Free Stuff", Free Stuff won.
Please - stop with this ridiculous nonsense. There is no "free stuff". Name one.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:58 PM
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I'm not an "extreme partisan" simply because I don't embrace the John Birch Society wing of the former GOP.

Like many have described, Obama fits very nicely with moderate Republicans. Why I voted for him. Why Colin Powell endorsed him. Why most major newspapers in the country endorsed him.

This country isn't divided - from my point of view, it's been brought more together. The wingnut extremists were thrown out of office. When you have Fox News calling Karl Rove extreme, there's plenty of hope. If they can lay off the crazy talk, and people like Donald Trump stop calling for revolution because they lost an election, the rest of us can continue to work. There were historic accomplishments Obama's first term, and it will continue.

The United States is unique as even our Democrats are considered rather conservative in the other first world countries. Like me being called "extreme". It's absurd.
You cant make a single post without making some extreme remark about the GOP. You think that politicam parties and those that suport them can endure months of attacks on rach other and believe that we come out of it more together? You think that thi election proves something? it proves nothing except that far too many people see only what they want to see. Obama won the popular election by a little over 1%. That is an awful lot of people who were willing to ignore the attacks and scare tactics and still vote him out.
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The problem with the GOP...heard it on the internet..

Too old, too white,too male.
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You cant make a single post without making some extreme remark about the GOP.
When the subject is the extreme things the GOP is doing - and even you have to admit that preventing women from accessing birth control is extreme - the subject dictates the post.

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You think that politicam parties and those that suport them can endure months of attacks on rach other and believe that we come out of it more together?
Yes. The extremists, the "Muslim Kenyan Socialist Communist" Bachmann-West-Mourdock-Atkins folks lost. The liars, the Fox News liars, lost.

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You think that thi election proves something? it proves nothing except that far too many people see only what they want to see.
The election was a "landslide" according to all the Romney people that thought he'd be on top with over 330 electoral votes. It was Obama who got the "landslide", however. Exactly as the multiple rational poll watchers - and not the crazy right wing reality-deniers - predicted. Every swing state but one.

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Obama won the popular election by a little over 1%. That is an awful lot of people who were willing to ignore the attacks and scare tactics and still vote him out.
Popular vote still being counted, but this mornings total is

59,621,436 Obama
56,989,709 Romney

That's plenty significant in a Presidential election. Especially as on the evening news, Obama's win margin is now over 3 million votes and still rising.
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