Ron Ellis claims East Coast Bias

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by EJXD2

Well, while we wait for Jay, here's my paean to Include Me Out, who I absolutely feel is not getting the respect she deserves as a multiple Grade 1 and four-time graded stakes winner this year.

http://blog.twinspires.com/2012/09/i...-left-out.html

include me out is a victim?! please.

he wants her to get respect, let her win the distaff. she'll get it.
hell, alpha gets 'dissed' because of his record outside ny-is that a bias too? no, his record is pretty clear in that regard.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

include me out is a victim?! please.

People don't really care that much about year-end awards right now because the way horses are being campaigned, they are almost never decided this early in any division save the glamor 3yo male division.

Basically -- he's saying Include Me Out is being "victimized" and "disrespected" by other people (not him!) and, oh yeah, he likes Amani to beat her in the Zenyatta and either Amani and Royal Delta for the BC Distaff.

Royal Delta obviously has more of a following, she's won an Eclipse Award, she's won a Breeders Cup Distaff, and earlier this year, she became only the 842nd horse since Congaree to run an all-time record Thoro-Graph figure.

Awesome Feather has more of a following, she's a perfect 10-for-10 lifetime and she's also won an Eclipse Award.

My Miss Aurelia has a following, she's also an undefeated champion.

Questing has a following, she very impressively won two Grade 1's at Saratoga and was pretty much the star of the meet this year.

Include Me Out is not a victim of any bias... and if she is the deserving leader of the vote for her older female division right now, only about 28% of the precincts have reported.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

People don't really care that much about year-end awards right now because the way horses are being campaigned, they are almost never decided this early in any division save the glamor 3yo male division.

Basically -- he's saying Include Me Out is being "victimized" and "disrespected" by other people (not him!) and, oh yeah, he likes Amani to beat her in the Zenyatta and either Amani and Royal Delta for the BC Distaff.

Royal Delta obviously has more of a following, she's won an Eclipse Award, she's won a Breeders Cup Distaff, and earlier this year, she became only the 842nd horse since Congaree to run an all-time record Thoro-Graph figure.

Awesome Feather has more of a following, she's a perfect 10-for-10 lifetime and she's also won an Eclipse Award.

My Miss Aurelia has a following, she's also an undefeated champion.

Questing has a following, she very impressively won two Grade 1's at Saratoga and was pretty much the star of the meet this year.

Include Me Out is not a victim of any bias... and if she is the deserving leader of the vote for her older female division right now, only about 28% of the precincts have reported.

right...which is why i don't get ellis' comments, or the guys article.

and i thought they were going to santa anita for the bc two years in a row to take advantage of all the fantabulous west coast marketing? but...they can't market one mare?
it just makes no sense. and the 'victim' label is almost as overused as the 'hero' label.

[skyfire]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

People don't really care that much about year-end awards right now because the way horses are being campaigned, they are almost never decided this early in any division save the glamor 3yo male division.

Basically -- he's saying Include Me Out is being "victimized" and "disrespected" by other people (not him!) and, oh yeah, he likes Amani to beat her in the Zenyatta and either Amani and Royal Delta for the BC Distaff.

Royal Delta obviously has more of a following, she's won an Eclipse Award, she's won a Breeders Cup Distaff, and earlier this year, she became only the 842nd horse since Congaree to run an all-time record Thoro-Graph figure.

Awesome Feather has more of a following, she's a perfect 10-for-10 lifetime and she's also won an Eclipse Award.

My Miss Aurelia has a following, she's also an undefeated champion.

Questing has a following, she very impressively won two Grade 1's at Saratoga and was pretty much the star of the meet this year.

Include Me Out is not a victim of any bias... and if she is the deserving leader of the vote for her older female division right now, only about 28% of the precincts have reported.

Exactly.