Now this is what I call trolling!

[Thepaindispenser]

It is obvious by now that the film had nothing to do with the attack on our embassy in Libya. It is the spin by Obama to coverup his failed foreign policies. By the way who cares if the filmmaker has ties to the Christian right. Riot are you trying to say that the filmmaker doesn't have a right to make this film? Good for You Tube and Google for telling Obama where to go when he asked them to take the film off of their sites. Can you imagine a President of the USA putting the feelings of violent,hateful, extremist Islamists over one of our most valuable rights, the right of free speech? Just another reason not to vote for this clown in November.

[GBBob]

[quote=Thepaindispenser;890284]It is obvious by now that the film had nothing to do with the attack on our embassy in Libya. It is the spin by Obama to coverup his failed foreign policies. By the way who cares if the filmmaker has ties to the Christian right. Riot are you trying to say that the filmmaker doesn't have a right to make this film? Good for You Tube and Google for telling Obama where to go when he asked them to take the film off of their sites. Can you imagine a President of the USA putting the feelings of violent,hateful, extremist Islamists over one of our most valuable rights, the right of free speech? Just another reason not to vote for this clown in November.[/QUOTE]

Yup...your brother..or was it friend...or...whatever..he's right..you bring a lot of intelligent debate to this forum

[Thepaindispenser]

[quote=GBBob;890296]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

It is obvious by now that the film had nothing to do with the attack on our embassy in Libya. It is the spin by Obama to coverup his failed foreign policies. By the way who cares if the filmmaker has ties to the Christian right. Riot are you trying to say that the filmmaker doesn't have a right to make this film? Good for You Tube and Google for telling Obama where to go when he asked them to take the film off of their sites. Can you imagine a President of the USA putting the feelings of violent,hateful, extremist Islamists over one of our most valuable rights, the right of free speech? Just another reason not to vote for this clown in November.[/QUOTE]

Yup...your brother..or was it friend...or...whatever..he's right..you bring a lot of intelligent debate to this forum

For Bob if it isn't something supporting or making excuses for all the failed policies of the Obama administration then it isn't intelligent debate. You have a problem with people who happen to disagree with you. Plus you are a hypocrite as you attack the methods of those who disagree with you while you remain silent about the insults and nasty methods used by your fellow ideologue Riot.

Yeah Bob, Obama is really doing a great job. Maybe one day you will open your eyes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

It is obvious by now that the film had nothing to do with the attack on our embassy in Libya. It is the spin by Obama to coverup his failed foreign policies. By the way who cares if the filmmaker has ties to the Christian right. Riot are you trying to say that the filmmaker doesn't have a right to make this film? Good for You Tube and Google for telling Obama where to go when he asked them to take the film off of their sites. Can you imagine a President of the USA putting the feelings of violent,hateful, extremist Islamists over one of our most valuable rights, the right of free speech? Just another reason not to vote for this clown in November.

What has dramatically changed in our foriegn policy in the last 3 1/2 years compared to the last admin? Or the ones before for that matter? Seems the status quo is still the same as its been for years.
And note that as you say, omama asked them to take it down. Didnt order it, he asked.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Danzig

What has dramatically changed in our foriegn policy in the last 3 1/2 years compared to the last admin? Or the ones before for that matter? Seems the status quo is still the same as its been for years.
And note that as you say, omama asked them to take it down. Didnt order it, he asked.

What has changed in our foreign policy??? How Russian reset buttons, apologizing to other countries, bowing to murdering dictators, leading from behind, not fighting to win in Afghanistan, withdrawing from Iraq leaving a vacuum that the Iranians are filling, distancing from Israel to appease other countries who seem to respect us less anyway, waging wars without Congressional approval. Yeah Danzig nothing has changed.

Also Danzig, Obama is not an all powerful dictator, although you know he wants to be, so he can't order You Tube and Google to take down videos that aren't violating any laws. Just by asking them, he choose the feelings of murdering, extremist Islamist thugs over a fundamental right for Americans. Also why is the government all of the sudden investigating the filmmaker over an unrelated charge? Obviously to silence him to appease violent, intolerant Islamic thugs.

By the way that video has been up on You Tube for months, only idiots believe Obama's desperate story of that being the reason for the attacks. Even if it was the reason, he should be defending the free speech rights of an American.

Also have you noticed how all of these hypocrites in Hollywood don't have the guts to defend free speech rights here when they defend those rights when any anti-Christian film is made. Let's see if Bill Maher, who made an anti-Christian film and donates heavily to Obama, has the guts to defend the filmmaker here. If he doesn't, he is just another gutless Hollywood hypocrite who will offensively criticize Christianity because he knows no harm will come to him but won't defend someone's rights to criticize Islam because he is afraid of violent Islamic extremists.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

What has changed in our foreign policy??? How Russian reset buttons, apologizing to other countries, bowing to murdering dictators, leading from behind, not fighting to win in Afghanistan, withdrawing from Iraq leaving a vacuum that the Iranians are filling, distancing from Israel to appease other countries who seem to respect us less anyway, waging wars without Congressional approval. Yeah Danzig nothing has changed.

Also Danzig, Obama is not an all powerful dictator, although you know he wants to be, so he can't order You Tube and Google to take down videos that aren't violating any laws. Just by asking them, he choose the feelings of murdering, extremist Islamist thugs over a fundamental right for Americans. Also why is the government all of the sudden investigating the filmmaker over an unrelated charge? Obviously to silence him to appease violent, intolerant Islamic thugs.

By the way that video has been up on You Tube for months, only idiots believe Obama's desperate story of that being the reason for the attacks. Even if it was the reason, he should be defending the free speech rights of an American.

Also have you noticed how all of these hypocrites in Hollywood don't have the guts to defend free speech rights here when they defend those rights when any anti-Christian film is made. Let's see if Bill Maher, who made an anti-Christian film and donates heavily to Obama, has the guts to defend the filmmaker here. If he doesn't, he is just another gutless Hollywood hypocrite who will offensively criticize Christianity because he knows no harm will come to him but won't defend someone's rights to criticize Islam because he is afraid of violent Islamic extremists.

our allies and enemies haven't changed a whit. and with obama's drone attacks, he certainly has taken things even further than bush did in that regard. and as for withdrawing from iraq, i'm glad we did that. it was planned before he took office, so that wasn't a change of plan on his part-it was a continuation. his style is different, the policies remain the same.
did you notice the democratic party reaffirming israel being our ally, and them going on record about jerusalem being their capital. that hasn't even been part of our official policy. another step further. saying we are 'resetting' relations with russia is a far cry from actually doing so, and at least the current admin didn't say something as ridiculously stupid as bush did when he said he 'saw in putins eyes' that he was a good guy. now, that's a stroke of naivete if i ever saw one.
we haven't fought to win in afganistan since entering that stupid war. remember, the one war expanding to two, with much of the focus being placed on iraq, where we should never have gone? and had we not gone there, you wouldn't be having the bs with iran that you have-which is exactly why bush one didn't push into iraq back with the first gulf war. and had we not invaded iraq, the focus would have remained solely on afganistan from the start. we went in with guns blazing, completely ignoring history in afganistan, and the fact that a 'war' on terror isn't exactly going to be conventionally fought...and knowing the track records for countries invading that wasteland, it would turn out a waste anyway.
and you're right, nothing has changed. which was my point. we're still involved in the morass bush started in afganistan. we're still seeing problems that came from us going into iraq. meanwhile, everything else is pretty much status quo, except maybe with egypt-and that's probably balanced by libya.


and it's not obama's 'story' that the film was the cause of the attacks. it's the cause of the protests. the attack was pre-planned, and took place when they felt an opportune moment came.
and i guess you've ignored all the people in those countries who are standing up for us, and are ashamed of what's occurred? but then, if you did, it wouldn't help your whole 'obama sucks' argument.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

our allies and enemies haven't changed a whit. and with obama's drone attacks, he certainly has taken things even further than bush did in that regard. and as for withdrawing from iraq, i'm glad we did that. it was planned before he took office, so that wasn't a change of plan on his part-it was a continuation. his style is different, the policies remain the same.
did you notice the democratic party reaffirming israel being our ally, and them going on record about jerusalem being their capital. that hasn't even been part of our official policy. another step further. saying we are 'resetting' relations with russia is a far cry from actually doing so, and at least the current admin didn't say something as ridiculously stupid as bush did when he said he 'saw in putins eyes' that he was a good guy. now, that's a stroke of naivete if i ever saw one.
we haven't fought to win in afganistan since entering that stupid war. remember, the one war expanding to two, with much of the focus being placed on iraq, where we should never have gone? and had we not gone there, you wouldn't be having the bs with iran that you have-which is exactly why bush one didn't push into iraq back with the first gulf war. and had we not invaded iraq, the focus would have remained solely on afganistan from the start. we went in with guns blazing, completely ignoring history in afganistan, and the fact that a 'war' on terror isn't exactly going to be conventionally fought...and knowing the track records for countries invading that wasteland, it would turn out a waste anyway.
and you're right, nothing has changed. which was my point. we're still involved in the morass bush started in afganistan. we're still seeing problems that came from us going into iraq. meanwhile, everything else is pretty much status quo, except maybe with egypt-and that's probably balanced by libya.


and it's not obama's 'story' that the film was the cause of the attacks. it's the cause of the protests. the attack was pre-planned, and took place when they felt an opportune moment came.
and i guess you've ignored all the people in those countries who are standing up for us, and are ashamed of what's occurred? but then, if you did, it wouldn't help your whole 'obama sucks' argument.

How can you just not laugh at these ****ing idiots and basically ignore their entire argument. How can you be for continuing these unjust wars and for entering new ones and also be against the spiraling debt? They are for the cause yet against the effect. In their mind they get to blame in either case. In reality they just look like the ****ing idiots that they are. Call them on it and they will completely spin in a different directions like cutting the size of the government which is needed but won't even come close to covering the cost of the existing and new wars. Their circular argument is more like a circle jerk with the same result, getting them off on blamin Obama for either of the results. I was going to write in Ron Paul as his views align with my own. After reading all this **** being spewed here I am now voting for Obama to cancel out a vote for Romney.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by jms62

....... I am now voting for Obama to cancel out a vote for Romney.

jms and zig don't be passive supporters - help support your guy!

http://www.yardsaleforobama.com/

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

jms and zig don't be passive supporters - help support your guy!

http://www.yardsaleforobama.com/

Are you 10? When you contribute something ANYFUKING thing of substance to any thread I will treat you with the respect you deserve which at this point is none.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

jms and zig don't be passive supporters - help support your guy!

http://www.yardsaleforobama.com/

yeah, he's not my guy. i think i'm going to do a write in for ron paul.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

How can you just not laugh at these ****ing idiots and basically ignore their entire argument. How can you be for continuing these unjust wars and for entering new ones and also be against the spiraling debt? They are for the cause yet against the effect. In their mind they get to blame in either case. In reality they just look like the ****ing idiots that they are. Call them on it and they will completely spin in a different directions like cutting the size of the government which is needed but won't even come close to covering the cost of the existing and new wars. Their circular argument is more like a circle jerk with the same result, getting them off on blamin Obama for either of the results. I was going to write in Ron Paul as his views align with my own. After reading all this **** being spewed here I am now voting for Obama to cancel out a vote for Romney.

yeah, i know it.
imo there is a complete lack of logic in many of the posts here. there's emotion, but not much actual thought.
if people are angry about the deficit, why would you vote for someone who wishes to grow defense?
if you are worried about taxes, why would you vote for someone whose primary tax plan is to cut taxes for the richest? you know, the ones paying less taxes than ever, and yet there's no correlating job growth?
if you are concerned about medicare, why would you vote for someone who advocates a voucher system?
if you're concerned about foreign affairs, why would you vote for someone who hasn't got a clue about foreign affairs?
if you're concerned about our standing in the world, why would you vote for someone who rushes to a press release without having the full story? how does that connote good leadership? i've heard of strike while the iron is hot, but the fire hadn't even been lit yet.
if you're unhappy with how banking completely effed up the economy, why would you vote for the guy who wants to remove regulations on banks?
if the republican party couldn't find someone better than that idiot, it doesn't say much for the future of the gop.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

It is obvious by now that the film had nothing to do with the attack on our embassy in Libya. It is the spin by Obama to coverup his failed foreign policies. By the way who cares if the filmmaker has ties to the Christian right. Riot are you trying to say that the filmmaker doesn't have a right to make this film? Good for You Tube and Google for telling Obama where to go when he asked them to take the film off of their sites. Can you imagine a President of the USA putting the feelings of violent,hateful, extremist Islamists over one of our most valuable rights, the right of free speech? Just another reason not to vote for this clown in November.

Geeshus, Pointman, cut the crap. You're beyond a joke.