Attempt to pick 1,000 straight horses who fail to win

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Unfortunately many of the bums are also becoming a list of horses that should be retired.

In more cases -- I think the trainers of these horses should either be retired or sent to horse placement school.

Most of these horses can win if placed in the right spots -- there are a lot of clueless trainers out there.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

In more cases -- I think the trainers of these horses should either be retired or sent to horse placement school.

Most of these horses can win if placed in the right spots -- there are a lot of clueless trainers out there.

Its not just the trainers. Owners too.

I don't think alot of owners understand the huge difference between say a 25nw2 race at Saratoga to that same race at Parx or Laurel.

Hell, you can see a huge difference in those exact races between Parx and Penn National.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

In more cases -- I think the trainers of these horses should either be retired or sent to horse placement school.

Most of these horses can win if placed in the right spots -- there are a lot of clueless trainers out there.

Real good example on Sunday at Arlington. Look at 1st race and 9th race.

Jimmy Gulick, who is a great guy and fun to talk to, enters Holy Rosie in an OPEN MSW off her 19 Beyer. On the same card there is an IL bred MSW going 1/2 furlong more, where the top horse ran a 40 Beyer last time. Its probably a mistake, but something like this is fireable and it isn't like he is loaded with horses.

(look at the 130k buy from the Mongolians in the 1st, probably one of the biggest gypsy org's out there). F'n amazing

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Scav

Real good example on Sunday at Arlington. Look at 1st race and 9th race.

Yep. There are dozens of similar examples every day from tracks all over the country.


I'm probably going to give Ranger a much needed weekend off.

I'm hanging out at the track at PID the next two days with non-betting company and going out afterwards.

Will pick up this thread and the win streak one when feeling returns to my body from 30 straight days of this madness, combined with making figures for about 10 tracks a day, betting, doing picks and writing for the newspaper, and still having the time to post about Knickerbocker and maintain a relationship with my girlfriend.

I feel like I just went 10 rounds with Mike Tyson.

[ranger5830]

Today's bum report has an interesting quandry, as Silver Sunrise in the first at Arlington ran coupled with another horse, who was clearly the better half of the entry as they went off at 7-2. Seeing how if the entry had won, anyone betting the bums would have cashed, I'm going to include it in the total. The entrymate finished 2nd and the bum was a well-beaten 6th. So the bums were involved with $9,044 in failed win wagers ($2,710 if you don't include the entry) which brings the grand total to $439,579.

Enjoy your time off, I'm sure this seemed a lot easier when it was just talk as opposed to doing all the actual legwork to make it happen.

[Calzone Lord]

Back from the one day hiatus.


Bums for Saturday:

Albuquerque Race #7: Mr Caty

Albuquerque Race #8: Plaid Lightning

Albuquerque Race #10: Robyns Return

Arlington Park Race #4: Sin Bin

Belmont Park Race #10: Keltic Fighter

Calder Race #10: Smoking the Field

Charles Town Race #5: Midsummer Lady

Charles Town Race #7: Supreme Notion

Delaware Park Race #7: Special Energy

Emerald Downs Race #9: Thoughtful Guy

Evangeline Downs Race #1: Sorcerer's Queen, High on the List, & Last Sweet Deal

Evangline Downs Race #8: Ho Lotta Chrome and Rebetta

Fairplex Race #2: Miss Ceehok

Fairplex Race #8: Act Sweet

Fairplex Race #11: Kathleen's Touch

Hoosier Race #1: Lilli Soprano

Louisiana Race #9: Mr. Mccoy and Sequoyah Wells

Mountaineer Race #1: Speedy Bullet

Mountaineer Race #6: Starfello

Monmouth Race #7: Crafty Time

Northlands Park Race #6: Goinup the Country

Presque Isle Downs Race #6: Interrogate

Remington Park Race #8: Helenthefelon and Chief Me Now

Suffolk Race #1: Beautiful Insight

Suffolk Race #5: Coby

Suffolk Race #10: Castiel

Turfway Park Race #2: Outabounds

[Calzone Lord]

29 horses ran today -- all of them got dusted.

In the 10th race at Suffolk -- one of the bums finished dead last beaten 38 lengths at odds of 18.30

The winner of that race went off at odds of 18.50 -- that's happened a few other times so far as well. An eventual winner going off at longer odds than a bum list horse in the same race.

458 down, only 542 more to go.

[herkhorse]

This is my favorite thread ever. No way in hell IC could pull this off.