8/29: Saratoga (Day 35; P.G. Johnson)

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by pointman

By refusing to give up his lane so Rosario could get out of a pickle?

We've seen much worse with no dq, pretty bogus to me.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

We've seen much worse with no dq, pretty bogus to me.

The hole was not there for the 5. Espinoza schooled Rosario by holding his ground. Last time I checked the rules you can't force a horse out of your way because you are blind switched. There was nothing bogus about that DQ.

[IrishofNDMan]

You didn't see a hole open?? Contact was made by the 2 coming in trying to close the gap on the 5.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

You didn't see a hole open?? Contact was made by the 2 coming in trying to close the gap on the 5.

No I did not. What you are claiming was an open hole was Rosario forcing his way into the path of the 2. What you think was the 2 coming in on the 5 was in reality the 2 holding his ground and appearing to come in when in reality the 5 ws trying to force him out. I thought this was pretty clear and a good job by the stewards,

For the record, I did not have a penny on the race.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by pointman

The hole was not there for the 5. Espinoza schooled Rosario by holding his ground. Last time I checked the rules you can't force a horse out of your way because you are blind switched. There was nothing bogus about that DQ.

I knew this one was going to be grey more than black and white as to whether the two closed an opening that was there for the five, could have gone either way IMO so no big deal....you'll find people who see it both ways especially if they had action.....

[pointman]

Originally Posted by docicu3

I knew this one was going to be grey more than black and white as to whether the two closed an opening that was there for the five, could have gone either way IMO so no big deal....you'll find people who see it both ways especially if they had action.....

Sorry doc, but I have to disagree with you on this one. I did not have money on the race, but thought it was pretty clear. If I had bet the 5, I would have to accept that he was properly DQ'd. The 2 almost certainly would not have caught the 5 if the 5 had a clean trip, but the 2 probably does win if the 5 doesn't force his way out.

[IrishofNDMan]

Well I'm bias cause I had a $30 5/5 double that I would have just cashed, wonder how much that cost me.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Well I'm bias cause I had a $30 5/5 double that I would have just cashed, wonder how much that cost me.

38.40 for $2.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

38.40 for $2.

Don't rub the salt in the wound..lol...That was a tough DQ to swallow...

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Well I'm bias cause I had a $30 5/5 double that I would have just cashed, wonder how much that cost me.

Cost me P3 & P4 but that how this yr's Spa has gone.

08/29/2012 10:34:55 AM (PDT) Bet Saratoga, Race 2, $1.00 PK3 5 / 1-5 / 3 $5.00

08/29/2012 10:33:46 AM (PDT) Bet Saratoga, Race 2, $1.00 PK4 5,7 / 3,5 / 1,3 / 1,2,5,12 $32.00

[ADJMK]

Congrats Steve. Just noticed you had the P4 either way.

[MaTH716]

Good Job Steve!

[ADJMK]

I agree with your selection of Pervis here. Lets get him home. Out of frustration bet a P3 with all in the 7th. Payoff could right most of the mistakes of the meet.

08/29/2012 01:24:43 PM (PDT) Bet Saratoga, Race 7, $1.00 PK3 1-10 / 7 / 12 $10.00

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Well I'm bias cause I had a $30 5/5 double that I would have just cashed, wonder how much that cost me.

Tony Black on ATR today said he was shocked at the DQ and that it wasn't justified. Not that it helps put money back in our pockets.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

We've seen much worse with no dq, pretty bogus to me.

Seen a lot worse this meet but Rosario the new boy so pick on him. I thought he only likes to go wide and lose ground.