Speaking of Uncle Joe...

Originally Posted by Riot

You have described the current Tea Party Republicans to a tee ... they believe anything they are told by Hannity and Fodder for Xenophobes, the old, white, angry, fearful American, worried about "my country" slipping away, and blaming the black guy for their never achieving the American Dream, when it was their Republican (and Democratic) Masters of the Universe that screwed them.

Should be an interesting day tomorrow at The Villages, not too far from me, when Paul Ryan throws red meat out to the crowd (which will NOT be very race-mixed) while dancing around or just plain deceiving them about his Medicare plan.

[Thepaindispenser]

Really Mike? Ryan is fully upfront about his Medicare plan. I am sure you learned from Obama's own mouth that he is the one who has made cuts to Medicare right? Obama would never lie right? Hahahahaha

Yes, he is an up front kind of guy, all right:

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/17/paul...stimulus_flub/

What message will he deliver today? Probably something along the lines of the old Vietnam war shibboleth - "We have to destroy Medicare in order to save it."

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Yes, he is an up front kind of guy, all right:

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/17/paul...stimulus_flub/

What message will he deliver today? Probably something along the lines of the old Vietnam war shibboleth - "We have to destroy Medicare in order to save it."

This is the real message...

[Thepaindispenser]

Speaking of being upfront, did you believe Obama when in a nationwide televised speech he said he never heard any of Wright's racist, hateful rhetoric?

By the way Ryan is correct when says stimuleses don't work. Obama's was the biggest, most corrupt giveaway to his big money donors in the history of this country. The mistake was voting yes for it in Congress. Once it was approved in Congress the money was going to be spent no matter what, so who cares if he asked for it.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Speaking of being upfront, did you believe Obama when in a nationwide televised speech he said he never heard any of Wright's racist, hateful rhetoric?

By the way Ryan is correct when says stimuleses don't work. Obama's was the biggest, most corrupt giveaway to his big money donors in the history of this country. The mistake was voting yes for it in Congress. Once it was approved in Congress the money was going to be spent no matter what, so who cares if he asked for it.

or lied about asking for it.

[Thepaindispenser]

Compared to the lies, threats, kickbacks, bribes, and accounting tricks Obama used to pass Obamacare, Ryan's is nothing.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Really Mike? Ryan is fully upfront about his Medicare plan. I am sure you learned from Obama's own mouth that he is the one who has made cuts to Medicare right? Obama would never lie right? Hahahahaha

Yes, we did, you completely ignorant-of-politics and the laws of this country idiot.

The Obama cuts to Medicare have been talked about - proudly - lead by President Obama and his administration - for the past two years, because the cuts were part of the ACA when it was passed,.

The cuts saved seniors $600 a year average by closing the Medicare donut hole, and cut waste and fraud from Medicare Advantage, extending the life of Medicare by 8-12 years.

Uh, yeah - Obama talked about that "a lot".

Where have you been for 2 years that you are completely unawares of that? Out of country? Don't watch news? Don't read a news site?

Your posts pretty much make it apparent that you don't pay any attention whatsoever to politics or the news, and you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Yeah, you hate Obama. Big deal. Haters are a dime a dozen. It's sad and hilarious when the haters reveal themselves as completely factually ignorant of what the President has done.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Should be an interesting day tomorrow at The Villages, not too far from me, when Paul Ryan throws red meat out to the crowd (which will NOT be very race-mixed) while dancing around or just plain deceiving them about his Medicare plan.

Saw the video on the news, Ryan stood next to his mom, and outright lied and said he was going to "preserve Medicare for future generations".

Here's the sad thing: news then interviewed an elderly couple, asked them if they liked Ryan's plan. They said, "yes, at least he has a plan, Obama doesn't".

Apparently these ignorant people are completely unawares that Obama's plan for Medicare was put into the ACA voted into law 2 years ago, and Obama's Medicare Plan is why this year they have free preventive medicine visits, and $600 less drug bills.

Same thing with my senior parents - they hate Obama, yet are happy they are paying less money through their Medicare this year - they certainly noticed - but they refuse to give Obama any credit for it.

I guess that change happened in a vacuum?

Complete ignorance in the American voter - very, very sad.

But I did like the MoveOn.org airplane circling overhead, with "Paul Ryan - keep your hands off our Medicare" banner playing out behind. That was fun.

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's the sad thing: news then interviewed an elderly couple, asked them if they liked Ryan's plan. They said, "yes, at least he has a plan, Obama doesn't".

Apparently these ignorant people are completely unawares that Obama's plan for Medicare was put into the ACA voted into law 2 years ago, and Obama's Medicare Plan is why this year they have free preventive medicine visits, and $600 less drug bills.

Same thing with my senior parents - they hate Obama, yet are happy they are paying less money through their Medicare this year - they certainly noticed - but they refuse to give Obama any credit for it.

The Villages is a curious enclave of retirees that covers parts of three counties here in Florida. Some of the residents are snowbirds attempting to skirt income tax laws in their true domiciliary states up north by claiming they are domiciled in Florida, a non-income tax state. I discovered this while working for the Census down here in 2010.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

The Villages is a curious enclave of retirees that covers parts of three counties here in Florida. Some of the residents are snowbirds attempting to skirt income tax laws in their true domiciliary states up north by claiming they are domiciled in Florida, a non-income tax state. I discovered this while working for the Census down here in 2010.

Been to the Villages couple times in the past...Is Lady of the Lake part of the villages?...Had friends from Ind and CT retire there..We usta rent a condo at New Smyrna in April and we would visit back and forth...and of course i spent many afternoons at Daytona dog track...

Originally Posted by bigrun

Is Lady of the Lake part of the villages?

No; Lady Lake is adjacent to The Villages, and is a town wholly within Lake County. The Villages is a sprawling planned community that covers parts of Lake, Marion, and Sumter Counties.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

The Villages is a curious enclave of retirees that covers parts of three counties here in Florida. Some of the residents are snowbirds attempting to skirt income tax laws in their true domiciliary states up north by claiming they are domiciled in Florida, a non-income tax state. I discovered this while working for the Census down here in 2010.

Half the deeply Republican elders in my family have "half-year plus one day" residences in southwest Florida

They get mad at Obama when I tell them don't bother to leave the properties to we young folk, as those beach fronts will be under water by 2050

Originally Posted by Riot

Half the deeply Republican elders in my family have "half-year plus one day" residences in southwest Florida

"Half-year plus one day" might work for RESIDENCY purposes, but establishing one's DOMICILE for tax purposes is more complicated. I was an Income Tax Auditor for NY State back in the 90's, and I was assigned to the "snowbird" unit on Long Island. We collected lots of tax revenue from people who had a winter residence outside of NY (usually Florida), but maintained a permanent place of abode in NY and had NOT changed their domicile to FL. Changed their tax filing status from "Non-Resident" to "Resident" unless they could meet the burden of proof in establishing a change of domicile; most couldn't because they still had business and other ties to NY.