Censorship on Bloodhorse

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What does that mean?

They are certainly sensitive of many issues. Are you honestly suggesting they will print pretty much anything?

Um, what? I didn't think my comment needed to be clarified. But I will regardless....

If it's newsworthy and it steps on toes, even the biggest toes in the game, the BH will still print/publish it. As far as I'm concerned there's really no hard-nosed journalism in horseracing, but the BH isn't afraid to print anything and, so far in six years of working for them, they have. Whether it be editorials or whatever...

Now that's not to say some people's jobs aren't geared toward the less controversial. Haskin, for example, isn't a newswriter. He's a features writer and there's a different direction than someone who does mostly news.

But the BH is a publication owned by the Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders' Association and, therefore, designed to promote the industry.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by redransom

Um, what? I didn't think my comment needed to be clarified. But I will regardless....

If it's newsworthy and it steps on toes, even the biggest toes in the game, the BH will still print/publish it. As far as I'm concerned there's really no hard-nosed journalism in horseracing, but the BH isn't afraid to print anything and, so far in six years of working for them, they have. Whether it be editorials or whatever...

Now that's not to say some people's jobs aren't geared toward the less controversial. Haskin, for example, isn't a newswriter. He's a features writer and there's a different direction than someone who does mostly news.

But the BH is a publication owned by the Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders' Association and, therefore, designed to promote the industry.

I don't agree with the second paragraph....though I do agree about the lack of hard-nosed journalism in Racing ( over all ) and surely Ray has done a great job with the Jess Jackson story.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't agree with the second paragraph....though I do agree about the lack of hard-nosed journalism in Racing ( over all ) and surely Ray has done a great job with the Jess Jackson story.

Okay, that's the beauty of it all... not agreeing. And Ray has stepped on a lot of toes (as have several of his cohorts) in the name of doing the right thing and reporting as is. Think, for example, of the ethics in sales stuff and double commissions, Jockeys' Guild, California racing, NYRA, bogus horse ownership lawsuits, drug testing, etc. The BH has covered it all, objectively I believe. And many, many people came away angry. Mission accomplished? I dunno, but I think so...

I, unfortunately, have first hand experience with the BH stepping firmly on very large toes and me having to go back for more info. Not a terribly friendly situation often times.

[blackthroatedwind]

I wouldn't say the reprinting of Empire's press releases has been hard hitting journalism in the case of NYRA.

[Danzig]

i know back when the jocks were negotiating with manley bloodhorse had no problem in questioning his credentials, and suggesting he was a bad choice and that the guild could do better...matter of fact, i was kind of surprised that they went as far as they did.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i know back when the jocks were negotiating with manley bloodhorse had no problem in questioning his credentials, and suggesting he was a bad choice and that the guild could do better...matter of fact, i was kind of surprised that they went as far as they did.

Jockeys dont advertise with the Bloodhorse. Perhaps they were a little skittish following the reports that the Arabs stud farms pulled all their ad's from the DRF after Beyers unflattering piece on the arabs.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Jockeys dont advertise with the Bloodhorse. Perhaps they were a little skittish following the reports that the Arabs stud farms pulled all their ad's from the DRF after Beyers unflattering piece on the arabs.

They did? Wow...

Jockeys may not buy advertisements, but consignors do.

And, truthfully, I sincerely believe if anyone over at the BH thought that the Sheikhs spending billions was bad for business, they'd comment. But I don't think anyone does. I mean, I won't speak for them, but the economic impact of selling those horses trickles down all over the Bluegrass. How can that be bad?

[GenuineRisk]

That link now just has a picture of Bernardini and no article when you click on it. Augh! Is it still up anywhere?

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

That link now just has a picture of Bernardini and no article when you click on it. Augh! Is it still up anywhere?

Maybe the writer had second thoughts. You know the bloodhorse had no problem running it, so the writer might have thought twice about what he said.

He sure did write some stupid things.

[blackthroatedwind]

So let me get this straight, in order to accurately write about racing it is necessary to understand physical ailments thoroughly and not bet?

That is baloney.

Not sure what writers that was referring to, and frankly there aren't an abundance of terrific writers covering racing, but the smattering of good ones are more " handicapping oriented " so to speak...thus perhaps the opposite would be true. Maybe the less known about horses the better.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I wouldn't say the reprinting of Empire's press releases has been hard hitting journalism in the case of NYRA.

Jesus you're tough. OK, so maybe the NYRA thing wasn't up to your snuff (and I don't know because, well, it's allgreektome) but you simply cannot fault the rest of the things I listed. And, of course, there's more. But I think I made my point.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by redransom

Jesus you're tough. OK, so maybe the NYRA thing wasn't up to your snuff (and I don't know because, well, it's allgreektome) but you simply cannot fault the rest of the things I listed. And, of course, there's more. But I think I made my point.

You made your point....and I don't agree with it.

[Honu]

With all the stuff that is being written about the Sheiks and their "buying up the game" and retiring horses along with a numbers guy basically bashing them and their operation , I think it would totally be funny if they just took their ball and went home.
Pull all their stock and take them to Europe , South America and everywhere else and with that take all their money that they pump into this sport in the USA , dont invite any Americans to come and compete in Dubai ( they are most likely tired of us taking their money anyway) just forget they ever heard of horse racing in the USA.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Honu

With all the stuff that is being written about the Sheiks and their "buying up the game" and retiring horses along with a numbers guy basically bashing them and their operation , I think it would totally be funny if they just took their ball and went home.
Pull all their stock and take them to Europe , South America and everywhere else and with that take all their money that they pump into this sport in the USA , dont invite any Americans to come and compete in Dubai ( they are most likely tired of us taking their money anyway) just forget they ever heard of horse racing in the USA.

It would suck if they did that and people continued to sell our top horses to them knowing they would take them off to other countries to race. Otherwise I don't think it will be a huge deal to the sport of racing. The breeding bubble would burst which would actually increase the number of top horses on the track. I don't know of anyone that would stop gambling on the races beause there are no longer any Sheikh horses racing. As a fan of the game and not someone financially invested in it I don't fear the Sheikhs taking their ball and going home at all. I'd welcome it.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It would suck if they did that and people continued to sell our top horses to them knowing they would take them off to other countries to race. Otherwise I don't think it will be a huge deal to the sport of racing. The breeding bubble would burst which would actually increase the number of top horses on the track. I don't know of anyone that would stop gambling on the races beause there are no longer any Sheikh horses racing. As a fan of the game and not someone financially invested in it I don't fear the Sheikhs taking their ball and going home at all. I'd welcome it.

Well that is your opinon, I would just say this, that their money would be a big loss to the sport in the USA , they pump alot of money into this "dying industry" as some would say. They buy farms and horses , millions of dollars worth a year, ask any person in the breeding industry and they will tell you that the Sheiks contribute alot of money .
They sponser races that have HUGE purses throughout the world and here in the USA , they give jobs to alot of people here in the USA by having American trainers and farms. Believe me this industry would sorely miss their particpation in American racing.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

With all the stuff that is being written about the Sheiks and their "buying up the game" and retiring horses along with a numbers guy basically bashing them and their operation , I think it would totally be funny if they just took their ball and went home.
Pull all their stock and take them to Europe , South America and everywhere else and with that take all their money that they pump into this sport in the USA , dont invite any Americans to come and compete in Dubai ( they are most likely tired of us taking their money anyway) just forget they ever heard of horse racing in the USA.

Maybe they can make up some fake races over in Dubai and award their own purse money to themselves. Oops...they are already doing that.

We have what they want...horseflesh and prestige. The breeders may need them, but they need us, and they give nothing to the American racing fan. NOTHING. They only subtract.

They should definitely go to South America. I bet their big races would be easier to win. Then again, if they can't, they can always buy their best horses. Oops again....they already did that.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Maybe they can make up some fake races over in Dubai and award their own purse money to themselves. Oops...they are already doing that.

We have what they want...horseflesh and prestige. The breeders may need them, but they need us, and they give nothing to the American racing fan. NOTHING. They only subtract.

They should definitely go to South America. I bet their big races would be easier to win. Then again, if they can't, they can always buy their best horses. Oops again....they already did that.

Be carefull what you wish for......