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Old 08-11-2012, 01:34 PM
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Paul Ryan Budget attacked openly by Catholic Church, since release, as being against Church teachings.

BTW, Joe Biden is Catholic.

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The Catholic Church is already under immense stress. Just Friday (August 11), the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), which represents most Catholic nuns in America, formally rejected the Vatican takeover of their organization and its accompanying Bishop overseers.

These nuns have been accused of emphasizing work with the poor and not focusing enough on issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Some of them participated in the media-friendly Nuns On A Bus tour, during which they traveled to nine states protesting the budget proposal of Rep. Paul Ryan. Sister Simone Campbell was quoted as saying that Ryan's budget "rejects church teaching about solidarity, inequality, the choice for the poor, and the common good. That's wrong."

Their months-long critique of Rep. Ryan's budget is unlikely to lessen in the coming months (now that Ryan is on the GOP ticket).
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Last April, the US Catholic Bishops sent a blistering message to the House Ways and Means Committee saying that any federal budget must be judged by the way it protects the 'least of these.' In Bishop Blaire's words: "The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria."

The architect of the budget the Bishops deemed immoral was Rep. Paul Ryan, a Catholic, who has now joined Mitt Romney as his running mate on the GOP ticket
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:46 PM
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Paul Ryan lost his father as a teenager, and lived on Social Security Survivor Benefits from his father's death.

Paul Ryan then attended college on Pell Grants and Federal Student Loans.

Ryan was elected to Congress at the age of 28, and has had a government job with government paycheck, government health plan, and government retirement account ever since.

Ryan lives in a mansion in Jaynesville that is on National Register of Historic Places, thus gets a 20% tax write off for his housing, which is maintained by the federal National Park Service.

Keep that in mind as you re-read the Ryan Budget Plan, attacked by the Catholic Church as "immoral".

Ryan, a Catholic himself, is a strict believer and pusher of atheist writer Ayn Rands Objectivism, and Ryan calls for complete government independence by all people, ending most gov. support for anybody needy or poor in his budget (which is why the Catholic Church, both nuns and Bishops, call it "immoral").

Except himself, who has lived off the government his entire life, and continues to do so now.

There is a clear choice this election for the American people. But easily-told-what-to-do Mitt will still have to release his income tax returns, even after he allowed the WSJ and Bill Kristol to pick his VP candidate for him in an emergency panic.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:48 PM
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Obama has also lived off of the Government his entire life. What the hell is a community organizer?
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:03 PM
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Obama has also lived off of the Government his entire life. What the hell is a community organizer?
No. False. Your rabid, nasty-tempered blind ignorance, lying and stupidity are simply stunning:

Obama's first job was working for the Catholic Church, managing a budget, employees, hiring.

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Obama worked for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side.

During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.

Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[48]
Obama worked his way through law school, like most poor students:

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While in law school he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989, where he met his wife, Michelle, and where Newton N. Minow was a managing partner. In the summer of 1990 he worked at Hopkins & Sutter.

He graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 and returned to Chicago.[51]
Obama returned after graduation to Chicago, got married, more work:

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Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992. He headed up a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of 400,000 registered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be

Although fundraising was not required for the position when Obama was recruited for the job, he started an active campaign to raise money for the project. According to Sandy Newman, who founded Project Vote, Obama "raised more money than any of our state directors had ever done. He did a great job of enlisting a broad spectrum of organizations and people, including many who did not get along well with one another."
With kids on the way, Obama went to work at a better-paying, more regular job, as a teacher:

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Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).
Obama then worked as a full-time lawyer:

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In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004. During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.
And then, this man who worked his way through school, life, marriage, and starting a family, entered politics.
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:41 PM
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To be fair I'm jumping on and off and reading stuff in pieces here and there but this caught my attention.... not so much because really anyone can be said to have been an "associate" in a workplace where they have connections but this... this is what interests me.....


In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004.During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

Now I'm only doing the math in my head but this - the number of hours - doesn't this seem very very low?
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:51 AM
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To be fair I'm jumping on and off and reading stuff in pieces here and there but this caught my attention.... not so much because really anyone can be said to have been an "associate" in a workplace where they have connections but this... this is what interests me.....


In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004.During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

Now I'm only doing the math in my head but this - the number of hours - doesn't this seem very very low?
It's roughly 4 and a half months of "Full Time" work. So only about 15% of his time (factoring in vacation time, about 10% actual) as a "Full Time" lawyer was actually spent billing work.

I don't know of any law firms that could possibly stay in business if they relied on that degree of productivity.
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It's roughly 4 and a half months of "Full Time" work. So only about 15% of his time (factoring in vacation time, about 10% actual) as a "Full Time" lawyer was actually spent billing work.

I don't know of any law firms that could possibly stay in business if they relied on that degree of productivity.
Thank God he is now a government employee!
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It's roughly 4 and a half months of "Full Time" work. So only about 15% of his time (factoring in vacation time, about 10% actual) as a "Full Time" lawyer was actually spent billing work.

I don't know of any law firms that could possibly stay in business if they relied on that degree of productivity.
Why don't you two re-read the CV, and look at dates? Which answers your concerns. Gee - what else was Obama doing full-time at that point in his career?
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