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Old 08-05-2012, 03:08 PM
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I actually was just referencing a race called the Distaff where she might have a chance.

Barring something unforeseen, there are at least 4-5 better Distaff contenders than her right now, one of which won the Clement Hirsch yesterday.
If the winner yesterday is one of the top 5, then the import probably does have a chance.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:10 PM
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With Royal Delta going in the Classic the Distaff will be wide open.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:15 PM
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If the winner yesterday is one of the top 5, then the import probably does have a chance.
Admittedly, I don't follow SoCal racing, but is Include Me Out that bad? She capitalized on excellent circumstances yesterday, but isn't she a premature move in a collapsing race away from being unbeaten for the year? Her figures might be a bit slow, but so are a lot of the main players on the east coast.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:19 PM
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Admittedly, I don't follow SoCal racing, but is Include Me Out that bad? She capitalized on excellent circumstances yesterday, but isn't she a premature move in a collapsing race away from being unbeaten for the year? Her figures might be a bit slow, but so are a lot of the main players on the east coast.
Thats pretty much the description of most of our high level racing now, a bunch of horses who run about the same figures and the winner is determined by which one gets the distance, trip, pace scenario they need to win.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:45 PM
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Admittedly, I don't follow SoCal racing, but is Include Me Out that bad? She capitalized on excellent circumstances yesterday, but isn't she a premature move in a collapsing race away from being unbeaten for the year? Her figures might be a bit slow, but so are a lot of the main players on the east coast.
She isn't that bad, I'm just saying if she is top 5, the import with more fitness, dirt, and Lasix can certainly bridge that gap.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:51 PM
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Those four or five must be yet to make their debut because I sure haven't seen them run yet. We'll see.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:12 PM
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Those four or five must be yet to make their debut because I sure haven't seen them run yet. We'll see.
Really? You haven't heard of...

Royal Delta
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That's assuming Awesome Feather is not a racehorse anymore and that Potesta will make no progress.

I understand that Amani has upside, but you seem to have seen something in yesterday's Clement Hirsch that I'd love for you to explain a bit.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:16 PM
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Really? You haven't heard of...

Royal Delta
It's Tricky
Include Me Out
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Questing

That's assuming Awesome Feather is not a racehorse anymore and that Potesta will make no progress.

I understand that Amani has upside, but you seem to have seen something in yesterday's Clement Hirsch that I'd love for you to explain a bit.
The champion 2yo from last year might turn out to be a pretty decent horse too. I think she returns to the races in a few days at the Spa.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:17 PM
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The champion 2yo from last year might turn out to be a pretty decent horse too. I think she returns to the races in a few days at the Spa.
She has a name you know.

Kinda like her Mom.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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The champion 2yo from last year might turn out to be a pretty decent horse too. I think she returns to the races in a few days at the Spa.
A precocious 2 year old that is just making it back to the races in August of her 3 year old year for Asmussen. What's the over/under on races she has left in her career...2 or 3?
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I'm not sure how you conclude that off of that effort. It is possible, but she'll need a big boost from dirt and/or Lasix.
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I understand that Amani has upside, but you seem to have seen something in yesterday's Clement Hirsch that I'd love for you to explain a bit.
Kingie with all the respect and affection in the world I'm kinda wondering what these guys are...
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Really? You haven't heard of...

Royal Delta
It's Tricky
Include Me Out
Grace Hall
Questing

That's assuming Awesome Feather is not a racehorse anymore and that Potesta will make no progress.

I understand that Amani has upside, but you seem to have seen something in yesterday's Clement Hirsch that I'd love for you to explain a bit.
Royal Delta did not impress me at all last out. Grace Hall? It's Tricky? Certainly more accomplished here in the U.S. but I haven't seen anything from them to make me look at them as unbeatable Questing is an interesting one as she's not seemed to show her ceiling while the others have, IMO. From what I saw yesterday, Include Me Out doesn't beat her going longer, especially with Amani having gotten one under her belt. We'll see.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:21 PM
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Royal Delta did not impress me at all last out.
I was more impressed in her last race than the open workout she had at CD.
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