3/14 seed shockers! Bold Ruler tops Barbaro, Citation fells John Henry

[FATPIANO]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

They had so many people suggest the name that they picked it out of a bowl. I figured they'd want something a little more unique.

I had Jackson's Dream.......so close yet so far.........

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

I had Jackson's Dream.......so close yet so far.........

yeah, probably not a great name for a young male, albeit a horse.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, probably not a great name for a young male, albeit a horse.

Jess's Dream sounds like a filly. A little girl named Jessica had a foal named after her.

I wonder if, when they sell Rachel's full sister Samantha Nicole, whether the new owner will change the name. Sorry, but it doesn't trip off the tongue as much. I'm sure it was named after a kid, but I wouldn't keep it. It's not bad luck to do that, is it? Like renaming a boat?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Jess's Dream sounds like a filly. A little girl named Jessica had a foal named after her.

I wonder if, when they sell Rachel's full sister Samantha Nicole, whether the new owner will change the name. Sorry, but it doesn't trip off the tongue as much. I'm sure it was named after a kid, but I wouldn't keep it. It's not bad luck to do that, is it? Like renaming a boat?

yeah, it sounds like a filly name to me, too. that was the first thing that struck me, that it's not a masculine sounding name at all.
some think renaming a horse is bad luck. but it happens, bodemeister for instance.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, it sounds like a filly name to me, too. that was the first thing that struck me, that it's not a masculine sounding name at all.
some think renaming a horse is bad luck. but it happens, bodemeister for instance.

Do you mean Paynter? I know he was renamed. MC's Dream or something.

[Calzone Lord]

Here are the final 8.

1. Secretariat
2. Cigar

1. Zenyatta
3. Affirmed

1. Ruffian
14. Bold Ruler

1. Man O' War
2. Seattle Slew

Secretariat: Unquestionably a legit top 8 all-time caliber horse.

Cigar: Arguably the best dirt horse of the 90's -- in the mix with horses like Skip Away and Holy Bull. Not even close to top 8 all-time.

Zenyatta: Basically, a joke.

Affirmed: He is in the mix of being rated as a top 8 all-time horse. He was an all-time great 2yo, 3yo, and 4yo who went off-form near the end of the summer of his 3yo season and struggled for several races. Dr. Allday and Slewis both claimed to me on the Internet that he was treated with Sublimaze and subsquently became a killer 4yo.

Ruffian: Another filly who achieved equine Saint-hood. She's one of the best 2yo filly sprinters of all-time, and her Comely win was awesome at 7fs. She has absolutely no business on this list. Her route races simply were very good for a 3yo filly, but nothing special overall.

Bold Ruler: Was about as good a sprinter/miler as any horse in history. Great performer -- but absolutely not a top 8 all-time horse. He's here because of who he sired.

Man O' War: Another one who was given Sainthood. His campaign was a great target for the sharpest racing minds of his day. Anyone who thinks he's a top 8 all-time horse hasn't spent any time studying.

Seattle Slew: Great horse? Yes. Top 8 all-time? Hell no.


Since it was supposed to be about popularity and fashion ... I can't disagree with anything.

However, who would I rate the best human runner of all-time?

Obviously her ...

[Sightseek]

Who is that?