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Old 06-14-2012, 07:05 PM
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One of my chief concerns is the spread of points is far too great. The 1st and 2nd place finishers of the 100 point stakes are all but assured of being in if they had accumulated any points previously. Plus with the UAE Derby unlikely to get many American shippers you have made the entries in these races contentious which could lead to trouble as graded earning are usually used for preference and those pesky sprinters might get in the way again.

Just find it hard to believe that the Sunland Derby is 5 times more valuable than the Champagne and the UAE Derby is 10 times more valuable than the BC Juvy. The spread is just way too much.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:38 PM
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The idea is spot on, the value of the races is out in left field, IMO... some alteration to the point values of the races, and I think they have got it.

Also Baffert touched on something interesting about field sizes and post positions. Since they are moving the Derby to a point based system, then I believe that the high point earners should get choice of post position in the Derby gates, this will promote more participation in these races.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:37 AM
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Just find it hard to believe that the Sunland Derby is 5 times more valuable than the Champagne and the UAE Derby is 10 times more valuable than the BC Juvy. The spread is just way too much.
No, the spreads are just about right.

They are just in the wrong direction. Champagne should be 5x Sunland Derby and the BCJ should be 10x UAE D.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:06 AM
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I'd like to know who the person or people was who were responsible for it by name.

It just seems like the work of people who are extremely petty and who did an extremely poor job of thinking out something that should have been simple and straight-forward.

Making a point system that is simple, competent, fair and designed to help one-day-a-year fans follow the event better is something so easy, a monkey should be able to do it.
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