Wisconsin Recall

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

You said what you said. I said Walker's budget. You say that's not true. Then you went off in a frenzy of parsing. Believe whatever you wish to believe Your beliefs have no effect on what Walker's budget actually did to people.

You are saying that Walker's budget did not cut state contributions to pension funds? Yes or no?

Logic and math are not welcome here.

"Proof is whatever I say it is." - Liberal in a debate.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

The only question remaining is if Walker will be arrested only on charges relating to Wisconsin law violations during his tenure in Milwaukee county (the arrests already of his employees), or if the FBI does indeed have additional charges of malfeasance in his current Governors office to arrest him on, too.

Rebecca Kleefisch will be the new governor, and that is simply terrifying. She's a loon.

Alas, the last desperate act of the Democrats in Wisconsin. Hope and pray that Walker gets indicted. Only the loons believe in this.

The People have spoken and you lost.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

You said what you said. I said Walker's budget. You say that's not true. Then you went off in a frenzy of parsing. Believe whatever you wish to believe Your beliefs have no effect on what Walker's budget actually did to people.

You are saying that Walker's budget did not cut state contributions to pension funds? Yes or no? The answer is factually yes.

You are saying Walkers budget didn't have tax cuts? The answer is factually yes, it did.

Did the money the state save from pensions and benefits go to pay for the tax cuts? In the face of a massive budget deficit? The reason that pensions and benefits "had" to be cut? Yes, factually, that money did cover the tax cuts. Not the deficit.

Proof from the written document please.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Logic and math are not welcome here.

"Proof is whatever I say it is." - Clip Clop in a debate.

FTFY

BTW, I am not "liberal"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Proof from the written document please.

You are seriously "demanding written proof" that Scott Walker's budget cut the state's contributions to union pension funds? And gave tax cuts?

BWAAAAAAAA ! You're a loon

Ask Wiphan. And Pointman. And Dell. And the Milwaukee-Journal Sentinel. And Act 10. Look - as I've told you to before - where Walker himself has said the money has gone. Look what fund the money has been placed into. They have all pointed out that has happened. We've sorta been discussing it for some months now? They can explain it to you

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

FTFY

BTW, I am not "liberal"

I ask for proof, you say look here. I actually go and look and it isnt there. You say no not there over here etc. etc.
Providing only your opinion as proof of what you say, if something is in a budget it is written in there. Show everyone and prove your self right.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I ask for proof, you say look here. I actually go and look and it isnt there. You say no not there over here etc. etc.
Providing only your opinion as proof of what you say, if something is in a budget it is written in there. Show everyone and prove your self right.

Show everyone what? That Walker cut union pension benefits? You seriously are denying that happened? That Walker gave tax cuts? You are seriously denying that happened, too?

Are you simply crazy? Read an effing newspaper.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are seriously "demanding written proof" that Scott Walker's budget cut the state's contributions to union pension funds? And gave tax cuts?

BWAAAAAAAA ! You're a loon

Ask Wiphan. And Pointman. And Dell. And the Milwaukee-Journal Sentinel. And Act 10. Look - as I've told you to before - where Walker himself has said the money has gone. Look what fund the money has been placed into. They have all pointed out that has happened. We've sorta been discussing it for some months now? They can explain it to you

Tax cuts for the wealthy and used the specific SAVINGS from asking normal people to contribute to their retirements.

Why aren't you attacking Jerry Brown or Chuck Reed or Cuomo or John Scibak for doing the exact same thing?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Show everyone what? That Walker cut union pension benefits? You seriously are denying that happened? That Walker gave tax cuts? You are seriously denying that happened, too?

Are you simply crazy? Read an effing newspaper.

Read a budget, or Act 10, like I did, as opposed to being spoon-fed whatever you want to believe from a newspaper article.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by pointman

I hope you realize that you are dealing with a moving target.

I know, I have been down this road too many times and it always ends the same way. Just a slow day at the office. Thursdays are always quiet here.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Read a budget, or Act 10, like I did, as opposed to being spoon-fed whatever you want to believe from a newspaper article.

Your desperate attempt to parse your way out of this is duly noted

Clip-Clop, you have gone down in history as being the only person in the United States - of any political persuasion - to deny that Scott Walker's budget decreased state contributions to pensions, that the money saved has gone into the state budget funds, and that tax cuts were given with that saved pension money covering the additional budget deficit created by the tax cuts

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I know, I have been down this road too many times and it always ends the same way. Just a slow day at the office. Thursdays are always quiet here.

As an employer, I'll note that you are an interesting representation of the quality of today's work force.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Alas, the last desperate act of the Democrats in Wisconsin. Hope and pray that Walker gets indicted. Only the loons believe in this.

The People have spoken and you lost.

Sorry. The Democrats have nothing at all to do with the multiple arrests out of Walker's office. That's the FBI.

BTW: Walker publicly has always said he called in the FBI and asked for the investigation. Walker is a stone cold liar. The release of memos this past weekend prove that Walker stonewalled the investigation as long as he could.

Maybe Walker can get a prison cell with Blagoevitch? Or maybe just with his multiple former employees. It's hard to tell, so many have been charged with felonies, so many have plea-bargained.

The people have indeed spoken and re-elected this lying, deceitful man. Hard to explain what uneducated voters do, but it's their right to be idiots. Hopefully the indictment will come down soon, and Wisconsin can move on from this disaster of this man's participation in politics a the local and state level.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

I hope you realize that you are dealing with a moving target.

in games, it's called whack a mole. good luck, and bring a big mallet.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

As an employer, I'll note that you are an interesting representation of the quality of today's work force.

As an owner of two companies and an employer of a great many folks, I am entitled to as many slow days as I can get. See I am non-union and therefore have to often work more than 40 hours a week!! Sometimes even on weekends.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

As an owner of two companies and an employer of a great many folks, I am entitled to as many slow days as I can get. See I am non-union and therefore have to often work more than 40 hours a week!! Sometimes even on weekends.

Yes, workers who feel entitled are indeed a problem

Clip-Clop: In the face of $120 million dollar surplus, did or did not Scott Walker give $140 million in corporate tax cuts as soon as he got into office? Yes or no?

Then, did or did not Scott Walker cut the state contributions to public union employee pension and benefit funds? Yes or no?

What fund did that saved money go into? Was it the general budget fund? Yes or no? Did it cover the tax cuts? Yes or no?

The answer to every question is yes, and you can please stop denying it now.

[ArlJim78]

Walker liberated union members, that's probably why so many of them actually voted for Walker. the scam is over, and a major source of revenue for the crime syndicate known as the democratic party has been shut down in Wisconsin. let's hope the same happens everywhere soon.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by wiphan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6Qf...ature=youtu.be

Thank you for posting that link.