Why the NYRA nasal strip ban?

[Linny]

Nasal strips have been around for at least a decade and have not been make "legal" in NY for use on TB's. The decision is not NYRA's. As on other things NYRA is bound by the laws and regulations governing racing in the state. Those regulators have not seen fit to permit the strips and thus the NYRA cannot just allow their use.

I am still amazed at how many people who profess to follow racing in this state don't know the difference between the New York Racing Association (NYRA, which runs Belmont, Saratoga and Aqueduct) and the regulatory body, the New York State Racing and Wagering Board. I work for Capital OTB and cannot tell you how often I field questions from customers about NYRA (and other tracks) that clearly indicate that the person asking doesn't know that we (Cap OTB) are NOT producing the broadcast from the tracks. Blackthroatedwind, you can rest assured than several Cap OTB patrons were concerned about your absence on Preakness weekend.

[blackthroatedwind]

I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

Really? You seem like such a cuddle bunny though.

Weird.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

.....sorry, i wish you didnt have any vacation days.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

I suppose next you are gonna tell us that those are paid vacation days?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am frequently amazed how many people seem to think I am not allowed any vacation days. Every single time I have been off in the last four years, people have asked if I was fired.

isn't 40 days of Saratoga enough vacation ? gimme a break. Why don't you speak up on the issue. You know its a bullchit ruling. Say so. The only problem with those strips is they give you acne, which doesn't really matter with the steeds.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

isn't 40 days of Saratoga enough vacation ? gimme a break. Why don't you speak up on the issue. You know its a bullchit ruling. Say so. The only problem with those strips is they give you acne, which doesn't really matter with the steeds.

Can't you see that it's an obvious conflict of intrest?

Also like Hossy said, O'Neill doesn't care. So if it's a non-issue with him, why is everyone else making a stink?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Can't you see that it's an obvious conflict of intrest?

Also like Hossy said, O'Neill doesn't care. So if it's a non-issue with him, why is everyone else making a stink?

Maybe because the rule just became known and it seems a silly one?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Maybe because the rule just became known and it seems a silly one?

The rule has been there, so where has everyone and their outrage been all this time?

[richard]

I am sure there are more than a few trainers and owners in NY that would like to use nasal strips. This incident opens up an avenue for expression that has not been available in a decade.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The rule has been there, so where has everyone and their outrage been all this time?

Like i said earlier in the thread, i never knew this was their rule. I bet im not the only one just finding out. Not sure about others, but im far from outraged. Slightly surprised, otherwise ambivalent is how i feel about it.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Can't you see that it's an obvious conflict of intrest?

Also like Hossy said, O'Neill doesn't care. So if it's a non-issue with him, why is everyone else making a stink?

i meant to speak up to them in house, kind of like an 2nd opinion. I know a ton of peeps respect his opinion, I know that I do. His bosses must too, or they wouldn't have hired him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Linny

Nasal strips have been around for at least a decade and have not been make "legal" in NY for use on TB's. The decision is not NYRA's. As on other things NYRA is bound by the laws and regulations governing racing in the state. Those regulators have not seen fit to permit the strips and thus the NYRA cannot just allow their use.

I am still amazed at how many people who profess to follow racing in this state don't know the difference between the New York Racing Association (NYRA, which runs Belmont, Saratoga and Aqueduct) and the regulatory body, the New York State Racing and Wagering Board. I work for Capital OTB and cannot tell you how often I field questions from customers about NYRA (and other tracks) that clearly indicate that the person asking doesn't know that we (Cap OTB) are NOT producing the broadcast from the tracks. Blackthroatedwind, you can rest assured than several Cap OTB patrons were concerned about your absence on Preakness weekend.

The strips have been banned at New York Racing Association tracks at the discretion of stewards under a one-sentence, catch-all equipment state regulation known as 4033.8 that states: Only equipment specifically approved by the stewards shall be worn or carried by a jockey or a horse in a race.

When the NYSRWB approved the strips in 1999 it was done so with the provision that they would be re-evaluated at the end of the year. The next month the NYRA’s then-president and chief executive officer, Terry Meyocks, announced the strips would be banned at NYRA tracks, according to Dr. Jim Chiapetta, a former practicing veterinarian and president of Flair LLC, which developed and produces the strips.


the above probably explains why folks are saying 'nyra'.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

The strips have been banned at New York Racing Association tracks at the discretion of stewards under a one-sentence, catch-all equipment state regulation known as 4033.8 that states: Only equipment specifically approved by the stewards shall be worn or carried by a jockey or a horse in a race.

When the NYSRWB approved the strips in 1999 it was done so with the provision that they would be re-evaluated at the end of the year. The next month the NYRA’s then-president and chief executive officer, Terry Meyocks, announced the strips would be banned at NYRA tracks, according to Dr. Jim Chiapetta, a former practicing veterinarian and president of Flair LLC, which developed and produces the strips.


the above probably explains why folks are saying 'nyra'.

It actually doesn't accurately explain why people are blaming NYRA but it does give a stilted view of how someone COULD be confused.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It actually doesn't accurately explain why people are blaming NYRA but it does give a stilted view of how someone COULD be confused.

How doesnt it explain people blaming nyra? According to the article, nyra said a month after the wagering board said theyd revisit in a year that no strips would be allowed.
If the article has it wrong, then you cant criticize the people who read it for getting it wrong, take it up with bh if its wrong.wrongfully

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

How doesnt it explain people blaming nyra? According to the article, nyra said a month after the wagering board said theyd revisit in a year that no strips would be allowed.
If the article has it wrong, then you cant criticize the people who read it for getting it wrong, take it up with bh if its wrong.wrongfully

Your handicapping is pretty weak on this particular issue.

[Danzig]

Can only go by what i saw...obviously not the full story?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Can only go by what i saw...obviously not the full story?

What percentage of people that rushed to blame " NYRA " had read that particular ( stilted ) story?