Weird betting coup at Thistledown - Page 3

Calzone Lord · #41 05-23-2012, 06:50 PM

Here are some of the equine stars involved in this Ohio bred filly MSW race.

The 16.5 length winner as the longest shot on the board ran twice prior at Thistle -- she scorched a 29 Beyer in her debut and ran a 14 last time out despite chasing a 22 3/5 first quarter.

Here is the eventual 2nd place finisher and post time favorite in the betting: Only a 1-for-62 jockey, but she did surge out a 9 Beyer last time at a lower class level.

Here is the eventual 3rd place finisher: This one was able to secure a loose lead through a 23.20 opening quarter last time out and exploded with a 10 Beyer ... however, was jumping back up in class and retaining the 0-for-40 jockey.

Believe it or not ... this sensational performer did not finish last in the race: Note that the day she exploded and ran a Beyer of 1 -- she was able to press a trotter like pace of 28.60 and 54 flat going a mile. Seriously, that's a buggy race pace.

Calzone Lord · #42 05-23-2012, 06:54 PM

You know something, Rosie Day has a nice turf pedigree.

Dayjur out of a Trempolino mare.

I can't believe they haven't tried her on the grass yet...talk about mismanagement of such a fine animal.

Scav · #43 05-23-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

It is pretty amazing you could get so much wrong in such a short post.

Do tell, please.

philcski · #44 05-24-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

You know something, Rosie Day has a nice turf pedigree.

Dayjur out of a Trempolino mare.

I can't believe they haven't tried her on the grass yet...talk about mismanagement of such a fine animal.

Costs too much to ship to River Downs!

philcski · #45 05-24-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I missed something. Betting in Europe. I've probably been wrong about this.

This was my first thought. Especially since most Euro sites have a "best odds guarantee" now- which basically means if the tote price is higher than the fixed odds price, you get the tote price... which sets up perfectly for a situation like this. I don't know what their limits are on US racing (especially Thistledown, LOL) but I suppose if you could get down $10k at 4-5 spots then now you're talking about some serious money versus the investment.

Kasept · #46 05-25-2012, 01:33 PM

Latest as report finds no track-related tie-in to the wild wagering:
http://www.drf.com/news/thistledown-...-investigation

pba1817 · #47 05-25-2012, 02:36 PM

"The bets originated from two internet account-wagering sites, betamerica.com, based in North Dakota, and link2bet.com, based on the Isle of Man. The accounts were suspended after an investigation was launched into the wagers.

However, the accounts were not shut down in time for the bettors to attempt another strange series of bets in the eighth race at Thistledown, investigators said. In that race, which was won by the third choice, the mutuel pool was $60,530, but investigators said that the final size of the pool was lower than the size of the pool prior to the last odds cycle because of a flurry of late cancellations that remain under investigation."

Sounds to me more than a computer "glitch"...

tector · #48 05-25-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

"The bets originated from two internet account-wagering sites, betamerica.com, based in North Dakota, and link2bet.com, based on the Isle of Man. The accounts were suspended after an investigation was launched into the wagers.

However, the accounts were not shut down in time for the bettors to attempt another strange series of bets in the eighth race at Thistledown, investigators said. In that race, which was won by the third choice, the mutuel pool was $60,530, but investigators said that the final size of the pool was lower than the size of the pool prior to the last odds cycle because of a flurry of late cancellations that remain under investigation."

Sounds to me more than a computer "glitch"...

You, sir, are a cynic!

Revidere · #49 05-25-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Here are some of the equine stars involved in this Ohio bred filly MSW race.

The 16.5 length winner as the longest shot on the board ran twice prior at Thistle -- she scorched a 29 Beyer in her debut and ran a 14 last time out despite chasing a 22 3/5 first quarter.

Here is the eventual 2nd place finisher and post time favorite in the betting: Only a 1-for-62 jockey, but she did surge out a 9 Beyer last time at a lower class level.

Here is the eventual 3rd place finisher: This one was able to secure a loose lead through a 23.20 opening quarter last time out and exploded with a 10 Beyer ... however, was jumping back up in class and retaining the 0-for-40 jockey.

Believe it or not ... this sensational performer did not finish last in the race: Note that the day she exploded and ran a Beyer of 1 -- she was able to press a trotter like pace of 28.60 and 54 flat going a mile. Seriously, that's a buggy race pace.

Beyer said they may adjust that 10 figure.

pba1817 · #50 05-25-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere

Beyer said they may adjust that 10 figure.

pba1817 · #51 05-25-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tector

You, sir, are a cynic!

Cynic, yes I am....

But I also understand some software engineering. And "glitches" of this magnitude do not happen randomly. Nothing is random in the world of software engineering. It is all calculated and accounted for. If there was a software malfunction, then it would have been sending in improper amounts from the moment the software malfunctioned. Software does not designate when and where to selectively error, it either errors or it does not. Based on the information provided, this software malfunction only selectively decided to place improper bet amounts at Thistle in these 2 races? Which in fact were not even back to back races on the card.. No other tracks reported any inconsistent betting amounts being submitted. That is an impossibility if it was a software malfunction.... Not an impossibility if it was a betting coup, a staged malfunction set by software engineers, or some other scandal of some sort.

Indian Charlie · #52 05-25-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

Cynic, yes I am....

But I also understand some software engineering. And "glitches" of this magnitude do not happen randomly. Nothing is random in the world of software engineering. It is all calculated and accounted for. If there was a software malfunction, then it would have been sending in improper amounts from the moment the software malfunctioned. Software does not designate when and where to selectively error, it either errors or it does not. Based on the information provided, this software malfunction only selectively decided to place improper bet amounts at Thistle in these 2 races? Which in fact were not even back to back races on the card.. No other tracks reported any inconsistent betting amounts being submitted. That is an impossibility if it was a software malfunction.... Not an impossibility if it was a betting coup, a staged malfunction set by software engineers, or some other scandal of some sort.

When he called you a cynic he was actually using your post to mock another person in this thread.