2012 Triple Crown Trail: 11 try to deny I'll Have Another

[Cajungator26]

I realize Union Rags may not be all that great, but he has the pedigree to get it done. Same story with Alpha. Guyana Star Dweej is one that I CAN see hitting the board at a long price. Is he sound?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I realize Union Rags may not be all that great, but he has the pedigree to get it done. Same story with Alpha. Guyana Star Dweej is one that I CAN see hitting the board at a long price. Is he sound?

Woah.

Union Rags has the pedigree to get it done? Get what done exactly? Not win the Belmont, that seems for sure.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Woah.

Union Rags has the pedigree to get it done? Get what done exactly? Not win the Belmont, that seems for sure.

IMO, he has a better distance pedigree than most of the field.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

IMO, he has a better distance pedigree than most of the field.

then that's quite an indictment of the rest of the field.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig

then that's quite an indictment of the rest of the field.

Yep. I'll Have Another probably has the best chance out of anyone else in recent history to win the triple crown based upon his stamina influences alone, but I'm always looking for value ... LOL.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

IMO, he has a better distance pedigree than most of the field.

I think Union Rags might have a better 5 furlong pedigree than anyone in the field.

His sire Dixie Union beat the freakishly fast Caller One going 5 furlongs in a razor sharp 56 3/5th debut win:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=5


The dam of Union Rags was 2-for-2 at six furlongs -- and failed at 3/5 odds in her lone start beyond six furlongs.

Union Rags was also sensationally fast while unblinkered at a 2yo in training sale.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I think Union Rags might have a better 5 furlong pedigree than anyone in the field.

His sire Dixie Union beat the freakishly fast Caller One going 5 furlongs in a razor sharp 56 3/5th debut win:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=5


The dam of Union Rags was 2-for-2 at six furlongs -- and failed at 3/5 odds in her lone start beyond six furlongs.

Union Rags was also sensationally fast while unblinkered at a 2yo in training sale.

I have been against him every race this year. I bet that POS Discreet horse in his comeback. I bet TCI in the Florida Derby, and he was one of my first throw outs in the Derby. NOW, I like him in the Belmont. I think he will be on the engine in the clear with JV, get first jump. Im using him and Paynter.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I think Union Rags might have a better 5 furlong pedigree than anyone in the field.

His sire Dixie Union beat the freakishly fast Caller One going 5 furlongs in a razor sharp 56 3/5th debut win:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=5


The dam of Union Rags was 2-for-2 at six furlongs -- and failed at 3/5 odds in her lone start beyond six furlongs.

Union Rags was also sensationally fast while unblinkered at a 2yo in training sale.

Look at his second dam Terpsichorist and then look further back to HER dam Glad Rags. There is some distance influence there as she is a member of the same family as Colonial Affair who won the Belmont coincidentally. He just looks like a horse built to go further IMO. If you really look at him, he is built very similar to Northern Dancer. I could be wrong, but I don't think that he is a 5 furlong horse.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Look at his second dam Terpsichorist and then look further back to HER dam Glad Rags. There is some distance influence there as she is a member of the same family as Colonial Affair who won the Belmont coincidentally. He just looks like a horse built to go further IMO. If you really look at him, he is built very similar to Northern Dancer. I could be wrong, but I don't think that he is a 5 furlong horse.

You're going back to 1965 Irish 2yo filly champ Glad Rags -- the 3rd dam of both Colonial Affair and Union Rags.

However, Union Rags is Dixie Union out of a Gone West.

Colonial Affair is Pleasant Colony out of Nijinksy.

Union Rags is bred to be extremely precocious all-around. Up close, he's best suited as a sprinter/miler IMO.

I'd load up on him in the Belmont if the race was 7 furlongs or a 1-turn mile.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

You're going back to 1965 Irish 2yo filly champ Glad Rags -- the 3rd dam of both Colonial Affair and Union Rags.

However, Union Rags is Dixie Union out of a Gone West.

Colonial Affair is Pleasant Colony out of Nijinksy.

Union Rags is bred to be extremely precocious all-around. Up close, he's best suited as a sprinter/miler IMO.

I'd load up on him in the Belmont if the race was 7 furlongs or a 1-turn mile.

Gone West mares have produced offspring capable of winning at all distances. If he was built like a sprinter/miler, I might be willing to toss him aside, but he's not.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Woah.

Union Rags has the pedigree to get it done? Get what done exactly? Not win the Belmont, that seems for sure.

I admit that when you say "sired by Dixie union out of a gone west mare" it doesn't scream Belmont winner. However, if you look at the dam, there is some of stamina influence in there.

I am not so quick to dismiss Rags on pedigree.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I admit that when you say "sired by Dixie union out of a gone west mare" it doesn't scream Belmont winner. However, if you look at the dam, there is some of stamina influence in there.

I am not so quick to dismiss Rags on pedigree.

How about on ability?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

How about on ability?

How do you plan on celebrating when the Kings when the Stanley Cup?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

How do you plan on celebrating when the Kings when the Stanley Cup?

I didn't know Sacramento made the playoffs.

When the Stanley Cup??