dear bernardini fans....

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well,when people were telling others that hoped they played against the horse(so they could make even more,)I thought it was unjustified.Anytime you change tracks,and /or a horse's level of competition,that horse can fail.We also were seeing an increase in field size that could get some horses out of their comfort zone.There are just a lot of things that make the chances of failure more likely,and if they exist on raceday,then your chances of getting beat go up.

Exactly. It would take a super horse to justify 1.1-1 odds against that field. (I wasn't overly impressed with the field, but it still would require a hugely dominant fav to be 1.1-1.) Bernardini had not shown enough to justify those odds.

I tried to explain that to Pillow Pants, but he only encouraged me to bet more against Bernardini. ;>)

--Dunbar

[Dunbar]

As far as the excuses for Bernardini, too bad the dini-fans here can't be as gracious as Albertrani was after the race. He simply said that Invasor was a better horse yesterday.

--Dunbar

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

As far as the excuses for Bernardini, too bad the dini-fans here can't be as gracious as Albertrani was after the race. He simply said that Invasor was a better horse yesterday.

--Dunbar

Im a huge dini fan, but no excuses, none!!! bad ride, bad post none of that.. he just got beat by a better horse

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

As far as the excuses for Bernardini, too bad the dini-fans here can't be as gracious as Albertrani was after the race. He simply said that Invasor was a better horse yesterday.

--Dunbar

The only people I see being ungracious are those who start threads like this trying to taunt Bernardini fans (cause now he's a nag). On the other hand, I haven't seen one post from a Bernardini supporter that has not given credit to Invasor......

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by Betsy

The only people I see being ungracious are those who start threads like this trying to taunt Bernardini fans (cause now he's a nag). On the other hand, I haven't seen one post from a Bernardini supporter that has not given credit to Invasor......

Invasor, hes the best!! Happy?? lol

all joking aside, kudos Invasor, down the stretch I was shouting go dini, go dini, no invasor, no invasor !!! Bleep, bleep, bleep, how the hell did this happen?? some more bleeps !!!

and that’s why I love horse racing !!!

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by Betsy

The only people I see being ungracious are those who start threads like this trying to taunt Bernardini fans (cause now he's a nag). On the other hand, I haven't seen one post from a Bernardini supporter that has not given credit to Invasor......

i never said he was a nag. in fact i believe i described him as a "good horse" a few times throughout the thread. this thread is not about him being a bad horse, it is about him not being the horse that some overexcited bozos on this board had been telling us he was for months. if someone had the nerve to question this horse.....the bernmafia was all over them.....for months.
after he won one of his races over a small low-class field one of them started a thread entitled "barbaro who?" people compared him to secretariat. if you think this thread is "ungracious" well......good. those of us who correctly questioned this horse were not treated very graciously for the last 5 months. it seems the bernmafia is good at dishing it out....but has a little trouble taking it.

Originally Posted by avance2000

i never said he was a nag. in fact i believe i described him as a "good horse" a few times throughout the thread. this thread is not about him being a bad horse, it is about him not being the horse that some overexcited bozos on this board had been telling us he was for months. if someone had the nerve to question this horse.....the bernmafia was all over them.....for months.
after he won one of his races over a small low-class field one of them started a thread entitled "barbaro who?" people compared him to secretariat. if you think this thread is "ungracious" well......good. those of us who correctly questioned this horse were not treated very graciously for the last 5 months. it seems the bernmafia is good at dishing it out....but has a little trouble taking it.

YOU mean the Bernmafia who were creating a ridiculous comparison that was nowhere near reality and should be feeling as stupid as stupid gets right now?
"He wants a target"
"He could go much faster, he was only under a handride"
"Hes gonna set the track record"

Blah, Glad thats over with.

Great horse, but not one tenth of what he was hyped to be, and now the Bernmafia can choke on it. I don't hear their big mouths now.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by oracle80

YOU mean the Bernmafia who were creating a ridiculous comparison that was nowhere near reality and should be feeling as stupid as stupid gets right now?
"He wants a target"
"He could go much faster, he was only under a handride"
"Hes gonna set the track record"

Blah, Glad thats over with.

Great horse, but not one tenth of what he was hyped to be, and now the Bernmafia can choke on it. I don't hear their big mouths now.

true mike ..did not see you around..,,,hope you crushed the cup...and i wont even go there about the trip and going out on a limb in saying the only other horse that figured was gonna win..to the original poster.. what happened to sun king..all all ect..

[Pointg5]

I understand why the original poster said what he/she said, it was true if you doubted this horse, there were tons of people calling you a hater. There were quotes of "my god, he's here the horse we have all been waiting for, he's here" and if you didn't drink the Kool-Aid you were an idiot. The arrogance that some put up here of how easily win the Classic was unreal and I think most of you paid for it, that's alright, there's something to learn from that. I thought he'd win, I gave him a 75% chance of winning, but I wasn't about to claim he was an all time great. He's very good, probably below Silver Charm, Tiznow, etc. but very good. He should win 3yo of the year, because of what he accomplished, but no one can honestly say that he would have beaten Barbaro more than 5 out of 10 times if they faced each other...I still say what I said earlier, he's one of the luckiest horses that I can think of in a long time, he won the Preakness, because of tragedy and the others were over the top, his Jim Dandy was a joke, and he beat a 3 legged horse in the Travers, I can't fault his JCGC, but it was a small field, but that's not his fault. I thought he was the most likely to win and thought he was talented, but also thought Invasior and Lava Man had a shot, so I was rewarded for not drinking the Bernardiniaid.

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

true mike ..did not see you around..,,,hope you crushed the cup...and i wont even go there about the trip and going out on a limb in saying the only other horse that figured was gonna win..to the original poster.. what happened to sun king..all all ect..

Hooves I'm sorry I didn't get to see you. I had my best cup ever at the windows. Only guy I saw from the board was Stevie on Derby Day when he stopped by Lansdon's.
I was pretty busy from start to finish and just arrived home about 15 minutes ago.
I put out the Sun King thing long before he drew post 13 and they scraped the rail yet again.
Funny how you seem to forget the Balletto bet, which I did do and lucked into, but heped create my own luck by liking Round Pond. I didn't have net acess while I was there very much, only limited acess. I don't need to have to post my every action and move on this board to know what I did.
I joined in the conference via phone(I told Cajun what I thought and she typed it) and I spoke to GPK, Crown and Club, Bellamy Road the day of the cup and told em my thoughts.
I'll post my trip happenings later on, I'm exhausted right now.