Has anyone seen or heard of this???

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a lot of effort, when you could have just typed 'he's still not as dumb as bush'. no one could argue that. of course he still could have five years to add to his body of work, so who knows?

No effort at all...I got a million of em....and if he had 20 more years to add to his work, wouldn't come close to catching up...Yes, and i still blame dumya/Iraq for our present day problems...and no Bush/Iraq, no President Obama.

so dumb he fooled the entire world into going to war

Yes he did...with fabricated intelligence and lies..and the coalition was a joke...what did it consist of, 90% U.S., 5% Brit, 5% others, close enough.

Just think, if it wasn't for his brothers state, hanging chads and SCOTUS there would be no president dumya bush...or President Obama...

Side note, found this out year after the election...the lady that designed that Fla ballot was from my old HOME TOWN!...gonna hunt her down some day and give her a big slap..

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by bigrun

No effort at all...I got a million of em....and if he had 20 more years to add to his work, wouldn't come close to catching up...Yes, and i still blame dumya/Iraq for our present day problems...and no Bush/Iraq, no President Obama.



Yes he did...with fabricated intelligence and lies..and the coalition was a joke...what did it consist of, 90% U.S., 5% Brit, 5% others, close enough.

Just think, if it wasn't for his brothers state, hanging chads and SCOTUS there would be no president dumya bush...or President Obama...

Side note, found this out year after the election...the lady that designed that Fla ballot was from my old HOME TOWN!...gonna hunt her down some day and give her a big slap..

The very stupid are often regarding as master manipulators. No one in Congress had access to the same intelligence? He made it all up. Have some more Kool-Aid.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The very stupid are often regarding as master manipulators. No one in Congress had access to the same intelligence? He made it all up. Have some more Kool-Aid.

Only to doctored intelligence..

and the Kool-aid jar was empty, you guys cleaned it out 2000-2008...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

No effort at all...I got a million of em....and if he had 20 more years to add to his work, wouldn't come close to catching up...Yes, and i still blame dumya/Iraq for our present day problems...and no Bush/Iraq, no President Obama.



Yes he did...with fabricated intelligence and lies..and the coalition was a joke...what did it consist of, 90% U.S., 5% Brit, 5% others, close enough.

Just think, if it wasn't for his brothers state, hanging chads and SCOTUS there would be no president dumya bush...or President Obama...

Side note, found this out year after the election...the lady that designed that Fla ballot was from my old HOME TOWN!...gonna hunt her down some day and give her a big slap..

your claim (and i've seen it more than once before from others as well) got me to thinking....i don't recall one subpoena, one arrest, one person in trouble for lying to congress over 'fabricated intelligence'. do you? some baseball players have gotten in trouble for lying to congress, you think they'd tolerate being lied to in order to start a war? and no one would pay a price for that later? that's laughable.
i did a google search to see if anything had in fact been found. i did find this:



"Perhaps Congress is hoping that these hearings will shield them from responsibility for a war that didn't have to be fought," Seehusen said. "Keep in mind that last October, 296 representatives and 77 senators voted in favor of a resolution supporting the invasion of Iraq. So every one of these individuals is just as responsible as Bush for the consequences of that decision – and convening a hearing won't change that."

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said no analysts have told the panel the administration pressured them to make a stronger WMD case than existed.

"If there is anyone in the intelligence community – former, current – that thinks their analytical product in any way was manipulated or coerced or intimidated, please come forward. We will keep it confidential. But we have yet to hear from the first one," Roberts told reporters.


now, i have no doubt lies have been told, by pols to their willing believers. just like always.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Danzig

your claim (and i've seen it more than once before from others as well) got me to thinking....i don't recall one subpoena, one arrest, one person in trouble for lying to congress over 'fabricated intelligence'. do you? some baseball players have gotten in trouble for lying to congress, you think they'd tolerate being lied to in order to start a war? and no one would pay a price for that later? that's laughable.
i did a google search to see if anything had in fact been found. i did find this:



"Perhaps Congress is hoping that these hearings will shield them from responsibility for a war that didn't have to be fought," Seehusen said. "Keep in mind that last October, 296 representatives and 77 senators voted in favor of a resolution supporting the invasion of Iraq. So every one of these individuals is just as responsible as Bush for the consequences of that decision – and convening a hearing won't change that."

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said no analysts have told the panel the administration pressured them to make a stronger WMD case than existed.

"If there is anyone in the intelligence community – former, current – that thinks their analytical product in any way was manipulated or coerced or intimidated, please come forward. We will keep it confidential. But we have yet to hear from the first one," Roberts told reporters.


now, i have no doubt lies have been told, by pols to their willing believers. just like always.

ok, i put this out 2 days ago and no reply. i'd like to know if there was anything, as if there was lying, there should be a thorough investigation and heads should absolutely roll! it would be beyond a travesty if we'd uselessly wasted troops' lives, altered others lives permanently, and cost us and our children a huge fortune and have no one in trouble for faking info to get us over there.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

ok, i put this out 2 days ago and no reply. i'd like to know if there was anything, as if there was lying, there should be a thorough investigation and heads should absolutely roll! it would be beyond a travesty if we'd uselessly wasted troops' lives, altered others lives permanently, and cost us and our children a huge fortune and have no one in trouble for faking info to get us over there.

Exactly what Iraq war produced...the whole truth will never be known...I'm not a conspiracy nut (justa nut) but have read and watched many stories on the subject...Have to dig thru my files for 'evidence'...

One point is Valerie Plame, why was she outed by the Cheney gang?..Her husband Joe Wilson was gathering evidence that Iraq was not obtaining yellowcake from Niger..never happened...and that story was one of the selling points in Bush SOTU speech for war on Iraq...
Check out the movie, Fair Game..i know it's just a movie and liberties may have been taken but essentially tells the story that discredits the yellowcake point...

[Danzig]

my whole point is that the democrats essentially are lying when they say they were duped. they voted, just like republicans voted, to invade iraq. had there been all this faking of intel, heads would have rolled, and rightfully so. but none have, which tells me it's a bs excuse on their part. the truth is that anyone voting for invasion did so because they didn't want to be portrayed by a potential opponent in the next election as being 'soft' on defense or on terrorism. bush takes a lot of blame, and of course the buck stops there. but as i've said more than once, it is congress that should share the blame. of course bush is such an easy patsy!!