More GOP class warfare against the poor

[Clip-Clop]

But the single moms need that money!

[Danzig]

'Also, many low-income Americans live in areas where banks are scarce, making it hard for them to find an ATM, she said. Barring them from using ATMs in liquor stores or casinos could mean recipients have to travel farther or pay higher fees to access their benefits.'


i have never liked the change they had made where funds are eft'd to debit-type cards. assistance should go where it's meant to go, not to people who will draw out the cash and use it for who knows what, while they don't pay rent and other necessities...or they gamble a few bucks because they know their luck has gotta change, only to have junior go without food except school lunch.
they went to cards because they didn't want users to feel 'stigmatized'. all that has happened is its easier to abuse the system.


as an aside, i'm figuring if there are casinos in the area, there are atms and banks. this argument i quoted above is ridiculous. i doubt that the folks whose cards were used in those facilities were only there to get cash to pay the landlord!!!

[Indian Charlie]

How is it freaking possible that people to this day still think there is a difference between the two parties?

Listen up! Both parties are funded by the same groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

How is it freaking possible that people to this day still think there is a difference between the two parties?

Listen up! Both parties are funded by the same groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thinking there is a difference and blaming the other for all the countries ills at least gives one hope that when their party is in charge things will be better. Unlike me who 100% agrees with you and sees NO HOPE...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

How is it freaking possible that people to this day still think there is a difference between the two parties?

Listen up! Both parties are funded by the same groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Riot]

I wonder if they are going to outlaw the Republican National Committee spending donor money on strip clubs in Tampa?

Naw, why change that

i have never liked the change they had made where funds are eft'd to debit-type cards.

Actually, that's a good thing for being far more easily able to control where the funds can be spent across the system. You can't purchase non-food items, alcohol, meds, etc. with your food stamp card, it just won't accept certain items with the swipes. It decreases abuse, not increases it. Makes abuse more difficult.

If those cards didn't exist, they couldn't be discussing this bill, as there wouldn't be any way to monitor it or control it. That's why you have the cottage industry of people in parking lots offering to purchase you food items for cash the first of the month.

"Welfare queens" Ruinin' it since Reagan invented them out of thin air, and in spite of the massive welfare program reforms of the 1990's <g>

[Indian Charlie]

ugh.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Actually, that's a good thing for being far more easily able to control where the funds can be spent across the system. You can't purchase non-food items, alcohol, meds, etc. with your food stamp card, it just won't accept certain items with the swipes.

From the article

Some recipients' use of their TANF benefits were called into question after media reports found the cards were being swiped at ATMs in strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos. Some recipients were also accessing their benefits out of state, including in Las Vegas casinos, at shops in Hawaii and on cruise ships, according to the reports.

So I guess it is possible...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

From the article

Some recipients' use of their TANF benefits were called into question after media reports found the cards were being swiped at ATMs in strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos. Some recipients were also accessing their benefits out of state, including in Las Vegas casinos, at shops in Hawaii and on cruise ships, according to the reports.

So I guess it is possible...

Edited to make the post more clear:

No, those were not EBT [for SNAP, "food stamp"] cards. The EBT [SNAP, "food stamp"] cards are already well-controlled (can't even buy toilet paper or aspirin with them). But like the EBT [SNAP, "food stamp"] cards, the TANF cards can be systematically programmed to not accept those locations or types of purchases if it is a problem. That is the advantage of the cards over the old system. Easier to control abuse.