2011 Eclipse Awards Finalists

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Alan07

More than 3 horses got a vote.

They always wait til the night of to announce HOY finalists. I don't see what 3+ horses getting votes would have to do with anything. I'm sure other categories had more than 3 nominees. I guess they figure HOY finalists would also be finalists in some other category and show up to the dinner based on that.

[Kasept]

Apprentice jockey
Ryan Curatolo
Kyle Frey
Rosario Montanez

Ridiculously, there is a re-vote coming for Apprentice because stats sent out for Montanez included his post-bug journeyman results.

(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Ridiculously, there is a re-vote coming for Apprentice because stats sent out for Montanez included his post-bug journeyman results.

(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)

Honestly Steve, that's probably the right thing to do. Let's face it, I'm guessing that some voters aren't too savy, so most of the basis for voting for this particular award is stats.
I'll admit that I have never heard of Montanez. I've heard of Frey but couldn't honestly tell you what circuit he's on. Since I'm from the area, I have heard of Curatolo. I don't have a vote so it doesn't matter. But what percentage of voters could honestly tell you they are familiar with all three and their individual bodies of work during this past season? To give Montanez extra wins, placings and showings post bug is really unfair, especially when the stats are probably the biggest basis on a person's vote.

[Alan07]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Ridiculously, there is a re-vote coming for Apprentice because stats sent out for Montanez included his post-bug journeyman results.

(I'll reserve my comments for radio next week. Some voter/pundits really distinguished themselves in their discussion of this topic earlier today.)

Can they just scrap the award already?

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Can they just scrap the award already?

I wish they'd do that with the handicapper of the year or rather "handicapper" of the year.

Tax Ruling said to please remind you that he was the only one to win 2 G1s this year.

Just sayin...

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I wish they'd do that with the handicapper of the year or rather "handicapper" of the year.

Why?

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why?

Isn't it kind of an insult to people who do this for a living to give an award to the winner of a contest?

I'm not saying it's an easy thing to win by any means but shouldn't it go to a professional?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Isn't it kind of an insult to people who do this for a living to give an award to the winner of a contest?

I don't think so. I look at it as a small recognition to handicappers for what they do to keep the sport going. Honestly, there should be more awards for handicappers/bettors, not less.

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I'm not saying it's an easy thing to win by any means but shouldn't it go to a professional?

I guess I see your point, but what makes you think the people who are participating in the contests aren't professionals?