I believe this one.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A horse stride doesnt change that much from surface to surface.

European turf speed is not even remotely close to what he would face in a BC race.

Galileo's dont dirt. Danehill's dont dirt. Danehill was a spectacular success as a stalion and I dont believe ever even have a minor stakes winner on the dirt anywhere. The ones that have tried here have failed miserably. George Washington and Oratorio.

Zenyatta wasnt a question mark at the distance or surface. If you say that she should have tried a turf mile at Ascot you might have a better analogy.

But to be fair as much as it pains me to side with Flippo.. If 90% to 95% of Galileo's and Danehills were trained and raced in NZ and Europe why would their few failures be relative? If Stormy Atlantic was a stallion in Europe we would never had considered that a Stormy could be OK on dirt.

Frankels speed is beyond 24 second loose on the lead euro stuff that horse is friggin fast, That colt can run a 22 sec quarter on dirt tomorrow for fun

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

But to be fair as much as it pains me to side with Flippo.. If 90% to 95% of Galileo's and Danehills were trained and raced in NZ and Europe why would their few failures be relative? If Stormy Atlantic was a stallion in Europe we would never had considered that a Stormy could be OK on dirt.

Frankels speed is beyond 24 second loose on the lead euro stuff that horse is friggin fact, That colt can run a 22 sec quarter on dirt tomorrow for fun

There is a reason why they are sucessful stallions in those locations. It isnt because they would throw dirt types. Stormy Atlantic raced exclusively on dirt so it isnt that big of a stretch would it?