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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by clyde

It would take a bozo like you to make me have to appear again.Now I know what poor Dahla Whoneverwouldsendmeadupaphoto went through.

He started out with the promise of being the type of hitter I mentioned.If you look at his record, as the home runs go up...so do the strikeouts and the average goes down.This trend was showing before the injuries.So you missed a few years.He's OK now and if you would read what HC tries to tell you, you might learn something.

I will take the type of player Sizeless could have been over a Pete Incavilia , Adam Dunn, Dave Kingman type ANY DAY.


This....this is why you train ostriches.

You are delusional and ignore reality.
Sizemore has 4 full ML seasons to examine
2005 .289 .348 .484 in 706 PA with 37 2b, 11 3b, 22hr, 52bb, 132k and 22sb
2006 .290 .375 .533 in 751 PA with 53 2b, 11 3b, 28hr, 78bb, 153k and 22sb
2007 .277 .390 .462 in 748 PA with 34 2b, 05 3b, 24 hr, 101bb, 155k and 33sb
2008 .268 .374 .502 in 745 PA with 39 2b, 05 3b, 33hr, 98bb, 130k and 38sb

What is apparent is that Sizemore was eerily consistent, wasn't developing into anything like Dave Kingman at the plate and of course this ignores the fact he was a Gold Glove defensive player at an important position, CF

His TA (true average) for those years was .290, .305, .294, .304
His VORP (value over replacement player) is 49.2, 69.8, 58.7, 58.0
His WARP (Wins over replacement player) is 4.6, 5.2, 5.9, 5.2

His last full injury free season he had DECREASED his strikeouts by 25 at the same time increasing his HR's by 9

The shame of him getting hurt and not being the same player he was doesn't mean that he wasn't always going to be the type of player that he was in 2008. The guy was what he was, your delusions that he was going to become some Juan Pierre type or that this was a good thing makes your opinion particularly absurd in this case.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are delusional and ignore reality.
Sizemore has 4 full ML seasons to examine
2005 .289 .348 .484 in 706 PA with 37 2b, 11 3b, 22hr, 52bb, 132k and 22sb
2006 .290 .375 .533 in 751 PA with 53 2b, 11 3b, 28hr, 78bb, 153k and 22sb
2007 .277 .390 .462 in 748 PA with 34 2b, 05 3b, 24 hr, 101bb, 155k and 33sb
2008 .268 .374 .502 in 745 PA with 39 2b, 05 3b, 33hr, 98bb, 130k and 38sb

What is apparent is that Sizemore was eerily consistent, wasn't developing into anything like Dave Kingman at the plate and of course this ignores the fact he was a Gold Glove defensive player at an important position, CF

His TA (true average) for those years was .290, .305, .294, .304
His VORP (value over replacement player) is 49.2, 69.8, 58.7, 58.0
His WARP (Wins over replacement player) is 4.6, 5.2, 5.9, 5.2

His last full injury free season he had DECREASED his strikeouts by 25 at the same time increasing his HR's by 9

The shame of him getting hurt and not being the same player he was doesn't mean that he wasn't always going to be the type of player that he was in 2008. The guy was what he was, your delusions that he was going to become some Juan Pierre type or that this was a good thing makes your opinion particularly absurd in this case.

I watched him a lot those first 4 years , but I can't give you the noodle films.....you're head's in the sand anyway.

You do point out the average drop so well.

And you hide how many of those strikeouts in the first 2 years were intentional strikeouts.


The guy tried to hit 40 home runs.....you could easily see his approach changed.

He didn't, his average dropped......and he became the next Dunn wannabe.


Stop being so Jewish.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by clyde

I watched him a lot those first 4 years , but I can't give you the noddle films.....you're head's in the sand anyway.

You do point out the average drop so well.

And you hide how many of those strikeouts in the first 2 years were intentional strikeouts.


The guy tried to hit 40 home runs.....you could easily see his approach changed.

He didn't, his average dropped......and he became the next Dunn wannabe.


Stop being so Jewish.

The stats dont lie
The numbers are pretty black and white
just like Grady

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The stats dont lie
The numbers are pretty black and white
just like Grady

Good one...and stats almost always lie.

Don't try to tell someone who watched him for those first 4 years...I wasn't watching stats;I was watching him.