gomez...you suck....

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Cam isn't the elite of the elite. He is just a good trainer that won a derby. Baffert, Lukas, Zito are elite of elites. You have to be a great trainer that wins the derby. Sorry if you don't like it, but the sport revolves around the derby. Frankel is great, but Frankel with a derby puts him with the immortals. Just the way it is.

Maybe to you. But you arent the standard for deciding greatness. Its more of a people involved within and industry that decides that.
So lets have a poll shall we?
I say that the majority of people in the game deem Pletcher, Frankel, and Mandella as greats. What say you everyone?

Besides that, you must be an older guy. This game has changed and does not revolve around teh Derby. It revolves around the Breeders Cup. It is taht day that decides champions!!