ouija board points to the classic

Pedigree Ann · #1 10-23-2006, 10:15 AM

I suspect the distance of the Turf is considered to be beyond her optimum - most of her major wins since her 3yo year have been at 10f-11f. Although why they would go for the Classic rather than the FM Turf...., By the way, Arravale's win yesterday makes the 3yo turfers like Wait a While and Vacare look very good for that race. This is a talented bunch of 3yo fillies.

Cajungator26 · #2 10-23-2006, 10:19 AM

Hmmm... not sure about this move, but I'm guessing they're concerned about the turf distance for her. I personally think she's got a better shot at the turf (even with the added distance) than the classic. JMO...

SniperSB23 · #3 10-23-2006, 10:23 AM

This would be really stupid but I guess it's their third BC so they can do whatever the hell they want with her.

Slewbopper · #4 10-23-2006, 10:34 AM

Am scratching my head concerning putting her in the Classic. Why would they do this in perhaps her last race? I think she would have a real good shot in the Turf and with a victory would earn the right to be called an all-time great mare.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #5 10-23-2006, 10:46 AM

she will beat at least half the field...andromidas hero please....ill take any action you want on her being last...

Cajungator26 · #6 10-23-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

she will beat at least half the field...andromidas hero please....ill take any action you want on her being last...

She doesn't have much of a shot, hooves...

And even if she finished middle pack, why would they do that to her when she had a better chance at the F&M turf? Makes no sense to me... ???

hoovesupsideyourhead · #7 10-23-2006, 10:56 AM

some of the horses entered vs dini are suspect also..no way id toss her out vs these for a minor award...if she takes to the dirt..no telling..thats all im saying..

#8 10-23-2006, 10:58 AM

Im a little perplexed myself but I guess they just feel she has nothing to lose at this point. But still...

Cajungator26 · #9 10-23-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

some of the horses entered vs dini are suspect also..no way id toss her out vs these for a minor award...if she takes to the dirt..no telling..thats all im saying..

Of course they're all suspect against Bernardini, but this is a horse with turf action and her chances of doing well are slim to none. IMO, if they were going to try her on dirt, they should have done so already (like Dylan Thomas did.) Trying her on dirt in the BCC isn't fair to her.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #10 10-23-2006, 11:02 AM

ill be laughing when she comes flying late for 3rd or 4th to bust out all the supers...

King Glorious · #11 10-23-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

some of the horses entered vs dini are suspect also..no way id toss her out vs these for a minor award...if she takes to the dirt..no telling..thats all im saying..

This reminds me of the Jolypha situation in 1992. Andre Fabre already was sending over the Arc winner (Subotica) for the Turf and her owner Juddmonte had another one (Quest for Fame) for that race also. There was no F/M Turf at that time so they took a chance and sent the 3yo filly to the Classic for her dirt and American debut. At 15/1 and part of the mutual field, she came on at the end to finish 3rd, beaten two lengths by winner AP Indy and just 1/2 length by older male champion Pleasant Tap. I remember how many people were saying it was a stupid move to try her there for many of the same reasons I hear people saying about Ouija Board. But what came through was her class that day. I think the same thing will happen for Ouija Board should she go here. Make no mistake about it, she has the class. If surface wasn't an issue here, she'd be rated no worse than the third classiest horse in this race based on her record. There are so many that will be in here that don't come close to her on class. Even if dirt is the equalizer and drops her form some, she's still too much better than some of these horses.

They've already won and placed in the F/M Turf. What would she have to prove running there again? She's already considered one of the best two or three turf mares in the world and the only two that could possibly be considered better (Pride and Mandesha) both will be skipping the race so she'd be favored to win and prove......nothing. It's almost the same thing with the open Turf. She's already run and won in top class races against the males so just as with the F/M Turf, it's something we already know she can do. So that leaves us with the dirt option. If it were me, I might have shot for the Distaff. I think that this year's edition is extremely light and she'd have a shot. I would think that the short distance of 9f would be a concern though (I'd seriously run Wait a While or Gorella in that race) and they are shooting for the moon. As anyone that's ever read my opinions knows, I love the move. I love those that take risks that most wouldn't. It's a sporting move by a sporting man. He's put her in against the boys, he's sent her all over the world, and now he's likely ending her career with the biggest challenge of all. Could have taken the safe route and gone in the F/M Turf but is going for the whole thing. I love it. If it happens. Now I want Bernardini to romp and take his place among the greats. But I'd love to see Ouija Board run second and George Washington run third. Reward the risk takers.

blackthroatedwind · #12 10-23-2006, 11:40 AM

Stop kidding around....we know if you owned them Gorella and Ouiji Board would be in the BC Sprint.

Danzig · #13 10-23-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Am scratching my head concerning putting her in the Classic. Why would they do this in perhaps her last race? I think she would have a real good shot in the Turf and with a victory would earn the right to be called an all-time great mare.

she's taken on the best colts overseas, and has done herself proud. only one run all year against the gals...i say go for it. if she can run against the guys there, why not here?

as for those who worry about the breakdown factor--you're in the wrong sport. any horse from a cheap claimer on up to top horses can have that happen at any time. to bring that up makes no sense to me!

and i feel she has already earned the right to be an all-time great. carried more weight this year than any of our top horses this year, and ran against the boys repeatedly, a 'must have' in most minds.

Revolution · #14 10-23-2006, 08:46 PM

I don't see why anyone would enter their horse against bernardini. Any other year take a shot, but this year has a monster. This coming from a huge Ouija Board fan.

Danzig · #15 10-23-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

I don't see why anyone would enter their horse against bernardini. Any other year take a shot, but this year has a monster.

because it's not always that easy! there will never be a walkover in a race like this. and for good reason. anything can happen, and many times does.

Revolution · #16 10-23-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

because it's not always that easy! there will never be a walkover in a race like this. and for good reason. anything can happen, and many times does.

Oujia Board (my avatar) would be trounced by Bernardini, just like every other horse that has showed up to run against him.

Cajungator26 · #17 10-23-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

Oujia Board (my avatar) would be trounced by Bernardini, just like every other horse that has showed up to run against him.

And I hope he does...

Because then, all of these posts about him will be validated.

#18 10-23-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

because it's not always that easy! there will never be a walkover in a race like this. and for good reason. anything can happen, and many times does.

If you are suggesting by saying anything can happen that Ouija Board has a chance to beat Bernardini on dirt, then I hope you know something that the rest of us do not - like maybe the fact that they're going to let her cut through the infield on the backstretch because that would really be the only way....

She has ZERO chance IMO....horses like Bright One have a better shot than her and they will be 30-1....

blackthroatedwind · #19 10-23-2006, 09:33 PM

Not that Ouiji Board is running, but hypothetically she actually has a better chance than known commodities like Bright One and Premium Tap, as both have the wrong running styles and are simply not good enough while at least Ouiji Board is a total wild card. I am not saying I would ever bet her, or even use her in any play, but she is MUCH likelier to win than the known no-shotters.

Bright One isn't actually running....is he?

Danzig · #20 10-24-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

If you are suggesting by saying anything can happen that Ouija Board has a chance to beat Bernardini on dirt, then I hope you know something that the rest of us do not - like maybe the fact that they're going to let her cut through the infield on the backstretch because that would really be the only way....

She has ZERO chance IMO....horses like Bright One have a better shot than her and they will be 30-1....

my response you referenced was not about ouija board, but about the suggestion that NO ONE should enter against bernardini.

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