KY denies Dutrow license; Injunction allowing runners

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

There is a question which will ultimately be asked of KHRA that they will never be able to answer well. Why was Dutrow licensed in 2010? What are they going to say? We only license trainers with up to 57 violations not 60? And once they admit that the reason is new violations then the cat is out of the bag on procedure and precedent.. How much money are they going to waste defending their position when they have virtually no chance of suceeding..

Are you kidding? Dutrow's inability to fill out an application properly despite being given fair warning that he was having a hearing makes for a tough argument.

As far as I have ever heard in these cases the states are undefeated. It is their license, they make the rules and they can interpret them as they want. The only people wasting money will be Dutrow's lawyers.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you kidding? Dutrow's inability to fill out an application properly despite being given fair warning that he was having a hearing makes for a tough argument.

As far as I have ever heard in these cases the states are undefeated. It is their license, they make the rules and they can interpret them as they want. The only people wasting money will be Dutrow's lawyers.

Apparently today's results notwithstanding..lol

Chuck Dutrow maybe the biggest cheat ever and frankly I could careless if he trains ever again, but at least admit its a witch hunt.. The guy had 50 mil positives in 2010, now lo and behold a few more broke the camels back? Have a heart its a capricious attack.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Apparently today's results notwithstanding..lol

Chuck Dutrow maybe the biggest cheat ever and frankly I could careless if he trains ever again, but at least admit its a witch hunt.. The guy had 50 mil positives in 2010, now lo and behold a few more broke the camels back? Have a heart its a capricious attack.

Who the hell is Chuck Dutrow

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by jms62

Who the hell is Chuck Dutrow

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0244853/
The production designer of Indecent Behavior III.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Apparently today's results notwithstanding..lol

Chuck Dutrow maybe the biggest cheat ever and frankly I could careless if he trains ever again, but at least admit its a witch hunt.. The guy had 50 mil positives in 2010, now lo and behold a few more broke the camels back? Have a heart its a capricious attack.

Witch hunts are conducted on people who aren't witches. Dutrow is a witch. He may not be the queen witch but a witch nonetheless. And even witches can conduct their business in a proper manner. Because he and others have skated for years doesn't mean it is right and doesn't mean it should continue.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Witch hunts are conducted on people who aren't witches. Dutrow is a witch. He may not be the queen witch but a witch nonetheless. And even witches can conduct their business in a proper manner. Because he and others have skated for years doesn't mean it is right and doesn't mean it should continue.

So basically you are suggesting that indeed Dutrow has not changed his spots and hence what has changed is the state and their licensing practices..If so then such change should be on record and be consisent for all.. Are you attempting to suggest that only Dutrow has had a new positive(or multiples) and is the ONLY person that has issues? Or are you says the state can simply use the best interest in racing clause without due process?

[Alan07]

Court Vision will be permitted to run tomorrow under the name of a new trainer, Justin Sallusto.
http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-co...-trainers-name

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Court Vision will be permitted to run tomorrow under the name of a new trainer, Justin Sallusto.
http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-co...-trainers-name

Allowing this defeats the whole purpose of denying him a license.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Allowing this defeats the whole purpose of denying him a license.

Yeah but Hoss, isn't this the same case as when trainers get days for some sort of infraction? The horses are just entered into the name of the assistant trainer and life goes on as usual, just the guy in charge is running it from a remote site.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So basically you are suggesting that indeed Dutrow has not changed his spots and hence what has changed is the state and their licensing practices..If so then such change should be on record and be consisent for all.. Are you attempting to suggest that only Dutrow has had a new positive(or multiples) and is the ONLY person that has issues? Or are you says the state can simply use the best interest in racing clause without due process?

There is no due process. There is no crime or charges. He is simply denied a license to train in the state. It is a professional license. Obviously they feel he no longer qualifies for a license in KY. He is not suspended or banned. He simply is not licensed. It isn't as though he hasn't given them ample evidence to use against him.

Do you think that Dutrow is the ONLY one who has been refused a license in KY? Did you miss the post about Hebert and Torres?