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Old 10-20-2006, 07:59 PM
ArlJim78 ArlJim78 is offline
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Obama is largely unknown outside his home state...I would ordinarily say that would be a minus but with recent history showing how hard it is for politicians to make the jump from the Senate to the White House because of their paper trail, perhaps this would be the right time for him as VP. Hillary has done well in Republican districts in NY so I'm not sure her negatives would be as large as you think. Clinton is still a powerful name in Democratic politics and Bill, now removed from the limelight, will be an asset. I don't think she makes the mistake of under-using her husband like Gore did. Maybe I'm overstating her appeal but I know I'd vote for her!
You may be right about Obama, the senate to White House route has not proved very successful (despite many having tried) so if you're going to try better to do it when you're relatively unknown. I think people tend to want to SEND someone to Washington to become president and fix whats wrong, rather than have someone slide on down from the capital. Senators are seen as part of the same Washington bureacracy, that's why governors have had much more success.

Honestly I think a Hillary campaign that utilizes Bill extensively might be the only thing that allows the Republicans to hold on to the office, imo.
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Old 10-20-2006, 08:14 PM
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I just don't think hillary would get enough votes to win. So many people would vote against her simply for being a woman. Not all democrats have progressive ideas. I know republicans wouldn't vote for her but the wiccans will have some say(unfortunatly)
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Old 10-20-2006, 08:17 PM
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I just don't think hillary would get enough votes to win. So many people would vote against her simply for being a woman. Not all democrats have progressive ideas. I know republicans wouldn't vote for her but the wiccans will have some say(unfortunatly)
I don't think her being a woman is the issue at all.
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Old 10-20-2006, 08:23 PM
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BTW: You guys are both wrong about McCain.

He is easily the most electable figure in either party. His problem is getting the nomination. He is essentially a libertarian in a party that has abandoned the idea that the government has no role in our personal decisions. If he is nominated he will be tough to beat.
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Old 10-20-2006, 08:35 PM
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BTW: You guys are both wrong about McCain.

He is easily the most electable figure in either party. His problem is getting the nomination. He is essentially a libertarian in a party that has abandoned the idea that the government has no role in our personal decisions. If he is nominated he will be tough to beat.
I don't know how i'm wrong, i said he is the favorite.

When i say his time has passed it just means that he is not a fresh face anymore, no longer the maverick. I never would have pegged him as a real libertarian though.

The Bush presidency has done much for McCains chances in my view. When he starts making speeches about bringing back some fiscal restraint to the party he'll find many sympathetic ears.
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