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[justindew]

Originally Posted by Hoist Her Flag

From the articles and quotes looks like both Soldat and To Honor and Serve are going. Especially Sodat they sold part interest last month, no way you buy in for that kind of money and have the earnings and back out now.

I was really hoping both would run well today so that they'd take action in the Derby.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by justindew

I was really hoping both would run well today so that they'd take action in the Derby.

If they honestly used the Florida derby as a test to see if soldat can rate, then they shouldn't go at all. That's a million dollar race today and he didn't look interested in running one bit. I thought to honor and serve may have moved too soon, but it seemed like everyone was waiting for shackelford to start backing up.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

If they honestly used the Florida derby as a test to see if soldat can rate, then they shouldn't go at all. That's a million dollar race today and he didn't look interested in running one bit. I thought to honor and serve may have moved too soon, but it seemed like everyone was waiting for shackelford to start backing up.

Really?

For a horse taken so far out of his game, I thought Soldat ran ok.

[hockey2315]

Interesting that both It's Tricky and Soldat turned in total non-efforts.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Interesting that both It's Tricky and Soldat turned in total non-efforts.

I think It's Tricky missed Artie.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Really?

For a horse taken so far out of his game, I thought Soldat ran ok.

what is his game?

He ran fine in turf races, when he rated.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

what is his game?

He ran fine in turf races, when he rated.

Well, turf for one thing.

I was mostly referring to race style. Like, you know, go to the lead, run without restraint, that sorta thing.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Well, turf for one thing.

I was mostly referring to race style. Like, you know, go to the lead, run without restraint, that sorta thing.

The problem is that he has only run well with perfect trips....either setting a modest pace or stalking in the clear. Yes, he has talent, but no ability to overcome even the slightest adversity.

However, given the dearth of speed in US turf racing, he could do very well in our turf races.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The problem is that he has only run well with perfect trips....either setting a modest pace or stalking in the clear. Yes, he has talent, but no ability to overcome even the slightest adversity.

However, given the dearth of speed in US turf racing, he could do very well in our turf races.

I was trying to say that I think he ran a race that was better than generally acknowledged here.

I've never thought all that much of him to begin with. I had low expectations of him today, and until the end of the race, I thought he was running pretty hard.

As for his Derby prospects? It's a two horse race at this point, and he is not one of those two.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The problem is that he has only run well with perfect trips....either setting a modest pace or stalking in the clear. Yes, he has talent, but no ability to overcome even the slightest adversity.

However, given the dearth of speed in US turf racing, he could do very well in our turf races.

Little Mike...

With the way he was bet yesterday and, with his top form right now, I am shocked that Dale Romans didn't wait and run him in the Maker's Mark Mile at Keeneland.