Jerry Brown on Maclean's Music

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

I think it was a really fast time by an obviously talented colt.

I also happen think it is crazy for Brown to try to make/defend/discredit a figure by comparing MM to Ghostzapper.

Ghostzapper did what he did in his career against accomplished horses and was a great, but brittle racehorse. However, comparing the two because you don't agree with a figure is lunacy. MM may not end up the reacehorse Ghostzapper was, but it doesn't mean he didn't run as high a figure in his debut.

I have no problem at all with what he said regarding Ghostzapper.

His whole take involving Ghostzapper was bascially 'Ragozin has sprint races at SA two points faster than me - and if he stays true to his habits - this horse will get a number as fast as Ghostzapper"

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by justindew

Andy,

The Dead played at the Uptown Theater in Chicago on back-to-back-to-back nights in January/February of 1978. For $10,000, name all three closing songs, in order.

Johnny B Goode, Good Lovin, Around and Around

[justindew]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Johnny B Goode, Good Lovin, Around and Around

Is your name Andy, a-hole?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Johnny B Goode, Good Lovin, Around and Around

That would be correct.

Interestingly, no encore the second night, and Around and Around closed the second set the first night.

The shows from the Uptown in 1980 are killer.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That would be correct.

Interestingly, no encore the second night, and Around and Around closed the second set the first night.

The shows from the Uptown in 1980 are killer.

I can't give you credit for that, but I have no doubt you would have known it on your own.

Try this (ANDY ONLY)..

On the day this horse won the Kentucky Derby, the Dead closed with Black Muddy River in Stanford, CA.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by justindew

Is your name Andy, a-hole?

For 10 grand you can call me whatever you want douche bag.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

For 10 grand you can call me whatever you want douche bag.

Ok.

Anti-semite.

Your check is in the mail.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

They make the Black Crowes sound incredible by comparison....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L91ZHpEaE-0

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They make the Black Crowes sound incredible by comparison....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L91ZHpEaE-0

Chris Robinson dreams that he's 1/10th as good as Pigpen.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Probably .... but not according to my lying eardrums anyway.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They make the Black Crowes sound incredible by comparison....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L91ZHpEaE-0

It's Justin Dew at 0:16 of that video!

[santana]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Probably .... but not according to my lying eardrums anyway.

Alot of stuff sounds really great, when the sunshine is Orange.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by santana

Alot of stuff sounds really great, when the sunshine is Orange.

http://www.dare.com/home/default.asp

While changing variants seems a bit unorthodox. I don't see the upside to Jerry saying what he thought unless he believed it to be true. We all know the foundation for accurate numbers is the best, most accurate variant. Both Ragozin and Thorograph want to make the most reliable numbers. If TG thought the track was changing it's their duty to make figures based on those changes. Their calculations. The numbers are the numbers why would it benefit them to say the track changed unless that's what their analysis showed?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

On Brown, and I like Jerry, his ground is immediately shaky with the 4th finisher, the first to hit the wire with a prior start, pretty much duplicating his debut figure. But, he's a smart guy, so we can't just dismiss him out of hand.

On the person you mentioned in this post.....has he admitted his foolishness or squirmed away like so many that say such idiocy?

What's funny is that Mig and I had that disagreement on the air after the Sam Davis, though without him being idioctically dismissive of figs, but after the Tampa Bay Derby he said on air that he was wrong. We're all wrong a lot of the time....I just wish more people were able to admit it.

sometimes its not "idiotically dismissive of figs"...its just i know who is going to be 6-5...more times then not its the chalk if the numbers look the highest. when the highest number gives me horses over 5-2....i'll love figs.......it works sometimes but c'mon. the faves still lose 2 out of 3 at most places.....with all the talk, you know this horse is going to be some ridiculously, stupid price next out...unless they really move him up...and even then it will probably be over bet. i'm just thinking anyone these days can do/get the number..trying to read the form is an art....you know that...but some of these others....i don't know about. i'm sure they are making bundles betting the "highest" number.....theres tons out there to be made on this horse.....lol

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Chris Robinson dreams that he's 1/10th as good as Pigpen.

.....a shame he drank himself to death before he was 30. cant beat the early seventies "live dead"

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

sometimes its not "idiotically dismissive of figs"...its just i know who is going to be 6-5...more times then not its the chalk if the numbers look the highest. when the highest number gives me horses over 5-2....i'll love figs.......it works sometimes but c'mon. the faves still lose 2 out of 3 at most places.....with all the talk, you know this horse is going to be some ridiculously, stupid price next out...unless they really move him up...and even then it will probably be over bet. i'm just thinking anyone these days can do/get the number..trying to read the form is an art....you know that...but some of these others....i don't know about. i'm sure they are making bundles betting the "highest" number.....theres tons out there to be made on this horse.....lol

Worst Unrelated Response Post Evah.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Worst Unrelated Response Post Evah.

Wait until tomorrow morning when he tells everyone about how every horse that won he liked and every beaten favorite he knew wasn't going to win. Oh and......lol

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by justindew

I can't give you credit for that, but I have no doubt you would have known it on your own.

Try this (ANDY ONLY)..

On the day this horse won the Kentucky Derby, the Dead closed with Black Muddy River in Stanford, CA.

I just saw this. It had to be 1987, as that was the year of Black Muddy River encores, so I guess it's Alysheba.

I regret never seeing a show at the Frost.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just saw this. It had to be 1987, as that was the year of Black Muddy River encores, so I guess it's Alysheba.

I regret never seeing a show at the Frost.

It's been a while since I looked this up but I think it was 1989. Sunday Silence.