Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

On Thursday, unions representing the Wisconsin Professional Police Association; the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin; the International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311; Madison Teachers Inc.; Green Bay Education Association; Dane County Deputy Sheriff's Association; and the Madison Professional Police Officers Association said it would boycott M&I Bank if the bank does not begin publicly opposing Gov. Scott Walker's efforts to curtail collective bargaining for public workers.
On Friday, Kwik Trip was added.
In the letter, the groups said the boycott would begin Thursday, March 17, if the bank and Kwik Trip don't oppose Walker.
Jim Palmer, executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, said Friday the companies were targeted for either supporting Walker directly, or its executives supported Walker's campaign, or because the companies are members of Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, a pro-business group that supported the governor, or all three.

This just shows the union thugs at their best and the scare tactics that they are using. Again it is all about the kids and doing what is right to educate the children properly.

Jim Palmer is so dumb that he can't even figure out that the employees of Kwik Trip actually contributed more to democrats than republicans.

"Union thugs" ??? - LOL Who are they physically beating? Way to go with the hyperbole.

Try a far more accurate description: "free market solution" or "voting with your feet and dollars".

It was independent firefighters that started that boycott of M & I Bank, before any of the unions got involved. They were in Madison to protest, and all went across the street into the bank and withdrew their money - about $200,000 worth that afternoon. The bank closed that afternoon in fear of a run.

It was so successful, that everyone else picked up on it.

People are completely entitled to use whatever merchants they wish - and to boycott those whose behaviour they do not like. Worked for Glenn Beck.

Merchants in Wisconsin, who donated to Republicans, are not going to get certain people's business. It's a simple as that. Donation lists are public.

Let the people decide. That's the pure capitalist way

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Union thugs" ??? - LOL Who are they physically beating? Way to go with the hyperbole.

Try a far more accurate description: "free market solution" or "voting with your feet and dollars".

It was independent firefighters that started that boycott of M & I Bank, before any of the unions got involved. They were in Madison to protest, and all went into the bank and withdrew their money - about $200,000 worth that afternoon. The bank closed that afternoon in fear of a run.

It was so successful, that everyone else picked up on it.

People are completely entitled to use whatever merchants they wish - and to boycott those whose behaviour they do not like. Worked for Glenn Beck.

Merchants in Wisconsin, who donated to Republicans, are not going to get certain people's business. It's a simple as that. Donation lists are public.

Let the people decide. That's the pure capitalist way

My definition of a thug or a bully is someone who threatens someone if they do not act in the way that the thug or bully demands them to. Your definition may be different.

Also FYI- $200k to M&I (now Harris Bank a canadian bank) is really nothing and already I am positive that republicans have deposited more money into that bank to offset it.

No one boycotted North Shore Bank(local WI bank) when they and governor Doyle ran a government subsidized home buying program for illegal aliens. Why not, because the media didn't pick up on it and the democrats weren't losing their precious campaign funds from a union.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

My definition of a thug or a bully is someone who threatens someone if they do not act in the way that the thug or bully demands them to. Your definition may be different.

I go with the time-tested dictionary definition of the word "thug" (you didn't say bully) which is a cutthroat, hoodlum. violent person. The historical definition of a "union thug" referred to union members who were physically violent.

Because, you know, that's what those words "mean" when they are used.

Also FYI- $200k to M&I (now Harris Bank a canadian bank) is really nothing and already I am positive that republicans have deposited more money into that bank to offset it.

Good for them! That's a free market solution, to which I'm sure you do not have the same objection as you expressed about the people taking money out.

The manger of M & I got a free VP slot at Harris Bank Chicago after the sale

No one boycotted North Shore Bank(local WI bank) when they and governor Doyle ran a government subsidized home buying program for illegal aliens.

Guess people were not as pissed off then, as they are at Walker and the current GOP group up there.

[ArlJim78]

maybe now that they rec'd a temporary stay, the union supporters will back off on the death threats. not likely but we can hope.

the whole concept of the union is to coerce or bully another party to get their way. whether its a state or government body or a company, the union basically puts a gun to their head and says you'll give us these wages and benefits or else we'll shut everything down. physical violence and intimidation are all part of their sop.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the whole concept of the union is to coerce or bully another party to get their way. whether its a state or government body or a company, the union basically puts a gun to their head and says you'll give us these wages and benefits or else we'll shut everything down. physical violence and intimidation are all part of their sop.

Not very common in current times, especially with those unions who are prevented by contract from striking, but hey, hyperbole helps the case I guess.

The weeks of peaceful, non-violent protest in Wisconsin, for example. Yeah, lots of "physical violence" "beating" and "intimidation" going on there

Down with unions! They are the current fad scapegoat! Kindergarten teachers suck and threaten me! The Republicans told me so!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not very common in current times, especially with those unions who are prevented by contract from striking, but hey, hyperbole helps the case I guess.

The weeks of peaceful, non-violent protest in Wisconsin, for example. Yeah, lots of "physical violence" "beating" and "intimidation" going on there

Down with unions! They are the current fad scapegoat! Kindergarten teachers suck and threaten me! The Republicans told me so!

If you believe that the people are being peaceful and non threatening you really are a fool. Any one ever threaten your life or your family? I know that would not be considered peaceful in my world

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

If you believe that the people are being peaceful and non threatening you really are a fool.

You simply can't have a political discussion without calling names, can you?

I've watched tons of YouTube videos and news converage of the protests at Wisconsin, and have talked to friends that attended. Peaceful and non-threatening is a terrific description of the hundreds of thousands of people that attended, and you know it.

Yeah, there are always a few idiots who break the law, and they should be pursued. Were they the majority in Wisconsin? Nope - there were only a few. Out of hundreds of thousands.

So don't try to paint the Wisconsin protests as anything different, as that would be a clear lie, wouldn't it?

Any one ever threaten your life or your family? I know that would not be considered peaceful in my world

You mean like the Tea Baggers on YouTube who talk to the news media about killing the President?

[wiphan]

Riot,

just out of curiosity do you support Gay Marriage?

[timmgirvan]

Pravda says Obama has spent over 2mil to conceal his citizenship! I'm laughing

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Riot,

just out of curiosity do you support Gay Marriage?

I know your question wasn't to me but I'll respond...Absolutely!!

[richard]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not very common in current times, especially with those unions who are prevented by contract from striking, but hey, hyperbole helps the case I guess.

The weeks of peaceful, non-violent protest in Wisconsin, for example. Yeah, lots of "physical violence" "beating" and "intimidation" going on there

Down with unions! They are the current fad scapegoat! Kindergarten teachers suck and threaten me! The Republicans told me so!

Excuse me, but public unions are not a "current fad scapegoat." They have manipulated the public trust many years to put themselves at the end of the plank. It's time they are outlawed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by richard

Excuse me, but public unions are not a "current fad scapegoat." They have manipulated the public trust many years to put themselves at the end of the plank. It's time they are outlawed.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Doesn't seem to be shared by many.

But yes, in the recent public political discourse of the past 10 years, "Bust the Unions! They are evil and the cause of all our budget problems!" has only made a huge public presence since the Koch Brothers held the last Republican Governors Association meeting, and the GOP governors were told to say it and do it before the 2012 elections. Bush certainly never had a problem with it.

Google News item search on "outlaw unions" number of stories:
2000 17
2001 34
2002 9
2003 17
2004 21
2005 19
2006 22
2007 28
2008 51
2009 46
2010 71
2011 336

Yes, indeed, the "current fad scapegoat". After Muslims, of course.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Doesn't seem to be shared by many.

But yes, in the recent public political discourse of the past 10 years, "Bust the Unions! They are evil and the cause of all our budget problems!" has only made a huge public presence since the Koch Brothers held the last Republican Governors Association meeting, and the GOP governors were told to say it and do it before the 2012 elections.

Yes, indeed, the "current fad scapegoat". After Muslims, of course.

and President Obama!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Union thugs" ??? - LOL Who are they physically beating? Way to go with the hyperbole.

Try a far more accurate description: "free market solution" or "voting with your feet and dollars".

It was independent firefighters that started that boycott of M & I Bank, before any of the unions got involved. They were in Madison to protest, and all went across the street into the bank and withdrew their money - about $200,000 worth that afternoon. The bank closed that afternoon in fear of a run.

It was so successful, that everyone else picked up on it.

People are completely entitled to use whatever merchants they wish - and to boycott those whose behaviour they do not like. Worked for Glenn Beck.

Merchants in Wisconsin, who donated to Republicans, are not going to get certain people's business. It's a simple as that. Donation lists are public.

Let the people decide. That's the pure capitalist way

Also, it makes perfect sense to publicly boycott a WI based business like Kwik Trip who does so much good for the community and it citizens. They didn't speak out one way or the other. They are just targeted by yes Union THUGS. Real classy. Ever hear of the Freedom Honor Flight? sponsored by Kwik Trip, there is so much more. I personally will be supporting Kwik trip as much as possible because of this.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Also, it makes perfect sense to publicly boycott a WI based business like Kwik Trip who does so much good for the community and it citizens. They didn't speak out one way or the other. They are just targeted by yes Union THUGS. Real classy. Ever hear of the Freedom Honor Flight? sponsored by Kwik Trip, there is so much more. I personally will be supporting Kwik trip as much as possible because of this.

Good for you! That's your right and freedom, as an American, to support the businesses you want to, based upon the owners political leanings.

So it's strange you made a negative post about other people doing exactly what you are doing - voting their social-political conscience with their pocketbooks. You called those other people violent thugs. But you don't think you are a violent thug? For doing the exact same thing?