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Old 03-12-2011, 11:43 PM
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i figured the union was so adamant about the changes because they don't want to lose union membership, thus losing money. but when i read that article today...well, it sure put a new spin on things. why the dems were so against it-it's not budgetary, except where their campaigns are concerned apparently.

it also makes me wonder about the supreme court ruling regarding companies donating to campaigns....some people were so against that ruling-but how many are perfectly ok with unions donating tons of dough? aren't unions really a business? interesting stuff.
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:34 AM
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i figured the union was so adamant about the changes because they don't want to lose union membership, thus losing money. but when i read that article today...well, it sure put a new spin on things. why the dems were so against it-it's not budgetary, except where their campaigns are concerned apparently.

it also makes me wonder about the supreme court ruling regarding companies donating to campaigns....some people were so against that ruling-but how many are perfectly ok with unions donating tons of dough? aren't unions really a business? interesting stuff.
Back when I was in the Teamsters Union, they would send us the voting guide for all the various things on ballots....candidates..propositions, and who the Teamsters supported. If you were a Dem...they supported you. If they didnt like you or it was a Rep running...there was no endorsement.
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:17 AM
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In chicago, there is a mob boss in jail for life who used to control their pension fund.

murder was just his hobby I guess.
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i figured the union was so adamant about the changes because they don't want to lose union membership, thus losing money. but when i read that article today...well, it sure put a new spin on things. why the dems were so against it-it's not budgetary, except where their campaigns are concerned apparently.
That's what the Democrats have said since day one about this fiasco. It's even on this thread. It's surely no "new spin"

Remember? That's why the GOP governors made union busting a priority this year? Because first they passed the Citizens United ruling eliminated restrictions on campaign donations by corporations.

Out of the top ten corps giving to $$ to political campaigns nationally, 7 are Republican, 3 are Democratic. The 3 Democratic are unions. If the GOP union-busts, yes, that eliminates those three unions, those three top Democratic political funders, leaving the GOP corporations entirely in charge, financially, of our elections.

The Republican Party has markedly and permanently changed in the past 10 years. They are now a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporate America. The GOP platform now - and look at every GOP governor's actions, and the House GOP, right now, both state and national levels, is this:

1. Impress that there is a severe budget crisis requiring "emergency measures" and "emergency powers" and "sudden action"
2. Use "crisis" as an excuse for cutting and slashing everything one can out of a budget, but from the lower and middle classes only: funding for schools, aid programs, abortion rights, planned parenthood, OSHA, FDA, prisons, etc. - everything.
3. Continue giving huge tax cuts and incentives to corporations
4. Attempt to privatize what survives: schools, vouchers, security at prisons, government, everything

What do you guys think about an emergency edict that enables a State governor to appoint a "manager", to go in and take over individual town governments, and usurp the duties of elected officials? (current bill that already passed the House in Michigan)

What about a State governor who takes away the right of individual towns to set their own local tax rates and improve their own local schools? (the bill Walker just signed in Wisconsin)


And they call Obama communist? What the GOP governors are trying to do is beyond crazy! This is scary stuff.
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