90 Days for Dutrow; ARCI calls for license revocation

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by golfer

Do you think Dutrow invokes "the doctrine of fair play" in his daily activities?

As for this question, I'd say that Dutrow's program tries to take every advantage it can under the rules to get the best performance possible from its' horses. There are dozens of large outfits that operate the exact same way. But its' funny that when those outfits catch medication positives, apologies are made FOR them by the public and media. It's not equitable.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

howie tesher cant wait for this to play out

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

As for this question, I'd say that Dutrow's program tries to take every advantage it can under the rules to get the best performance possible from its' horses. There are dozens of large outfits that operate the exact same way. But its' funny that when those outfits catch medication positives, apologies are made FOR them by the public and media. It's not equitable.

Owners have no problem in fact demand that such trainers push the enevelope as far it can go without crossing the line.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Owners have no problem in fact demand that such trainers push the enevelope as far it can go without crossing the line.

The million dollar question is: If a substance NOT ILLEGAL then is it LEGAL? If the answer is legal than the sport will always be playing catch-up to the chemists.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

The million dollar question is: If a substance NOT ILLEGAL then is it LEGAL? If the answer is legal than the sport will always be playing catch-up to the chemists.

And? this is news, or just the way it is. They are banning horses from going into oxygen chambers. The only reason why is because some people cant afford it and some can. Why wouldnt you allow a horse to breathe oxygen whats next you cant give your horse a vitamin or organic supplement because it makes them feel better? Oxygen is now illegal.. Wouldnt want them breathing to much air?

[asudevil]

He's no phuckin good babe. A real low life babe. Not sayin' others aren't the same, babe. He's just no damn good for the game....BABE!!

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Owners have no problem in fact demand that such trainers push the enevelope as far it can go without crossing the line.

Could that be why the attorney whose representing Dutrow has recently worked in-house for Michael Dubb?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Could that be why the attorney whose representing Dutrow has recently worked in-house for Michael Dubb?

I don't know, all I do know is that Dubb is a savvy real estate developer, and Dutrow is a great horseman. I realize that Dutrow has had a ton of issues and I dodnt condone it but certainly those issues in the past cant be the basis for current punishment unless others of his ilk are treated in the future in kind. It's a slippery slope they are attempting to head down

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I realize that Dutrow has had a ton of issues and I dodnt condone it but certainly those issues in the past cant be the basis for current punishment unless others of his ilk are treated in the future in kind. It's a slippery slope they are attempting to head down

In almost every other area of life, the person's past history forms part of the context for current punishment. For example, a doctor with multiple incidents of malpractice is more likely to get his license revoked by the Department of Health for incompetence than a doctor with an otherwise "clean" record. How is this any different?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

In almost every other area of life, the person's past history forms part of the context for current punishment. For example, a doctor with multiple incidents of malpractice is more likely to get his license revoked by the Department of Health for incompetence than a doctor with an otherwise "clean" record. How is this any different?

You get a speeding ticket you pay your fine and your license gets points affixed to it. As long as you dont go above a prescribed fig you keep you priviledge to drive. Is there points system in racing? If there was you would have a case otherwise it becomes a subjective circus with lots of room for capricious claims. Getting back to the example above if get 1 speeding ticket for 84mph in a 55 every 15 months you never have more then X pts on your record because every clean year you lose 2 pts.

What are you going to do with Assumssen and Pletcher when they get popped again?

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What are you going to do with Assumssen and Pletcher when they get popped again?

I'd want them to do the same thing. But I think we know that's not going to happen. Dutrow's big problem is his mouth. That makes him an easy target.