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Old 10-18-2006, 07:15 PM
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Is Frankel saying about why he's throwing BOSilver in here?
Well to paraphrase the article. Ramsey has been trying to find an allowance race for BOS and Frankel suggested that BOS was doing so good that they should try the Mile. And I guess that is all that Ramsey needed to hear. Apparently, BOS was entered into the Bernard Baruch but scratched.

I love the thought process here

- scratch out of the Benard
_ try to find an allowace race
- lets try the Breeders Cup Mile after a 11 month layoff.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:18 PM
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This is crazy, but great. I never imagined that BOS would be put in this race off of an 11 month layoff. What a damn move! I was actually shocked when I read the topic of this thread.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:25 PM
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Frankel can't win Breeders Cup races with clear favorites, so no confidence in taking him with a bomb here.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:31 PM
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Frankel can't win Breeders Cup races with clear favorites, so no confidence in taking him with a bomb here.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:32 AM
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I could have trained Ghostzapper to win the BC. There wasn't a horse within 5 lengths of him that year (except the horse that won the 2005 BC.)
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:36 AM
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I could have trained Ghostzapper to win the BC. There wasn't a horse within 5 lengths of him that year (except the horse that won the 2005 BC.)
I don't know about that, the horse wasn't exactly sound, I am sure it took all of Frankel's training know-how to keep him together and ready to run...
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:42 AM
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I don't know about that, the horse wasn't exactly sound, I am sure it took all of Frankel's training know-how to keep him together and ready to run...
Yeah, i was just kidding, and despite the naysayers i thought he did a good job managing this horse, especially considering his fragility. But Ghostzapper really was 5 lengths better than anyone that year, and that was an excellent field.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:34 PM
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Frankel can't win Breeders Cup races with clear favorites, so no confidence in taking him with a bomb here.
I doubt he runs, but if he does...I would not count him out...if his foot issues are dealt with he will be ready.
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This is classic Ken Ramsey...mark it down....there is a Breeders' Cup at his hime track that he is the perennial leading owner at and he wants a runner on the day....period

I've seen this move before by him....Frankel is a phenonminal layoff trainer and this horse is IMMENSELY talented when he's right, but he can't be really expected to fire off the shelf against these.....

They had him ready to stand at Ramsey's farm for $12,500 this year before he dominated in his first start on the grass in his seasonal finale last year on the west coast and they changed their mind and decided to wait one more year and go for the Breeders' Cup this year (he is out of a Silver Hawk mare)...Well, its been an adventurous campaign with ZERO starts (which explains how unsound he's been) and now they are trying to get their moneys worth since they had to sit on him all year after they unretired him.....

I knew this colt like the back of my hand from my Fair Grounds days when Werner had him...he's an absolute freak and one of the best horses in the country when he's right, but he is one of the most fragile horses I think I've ever seen...this horse has a bad throat, screws in almost every inch of his cannon bone, bad feet and he is still kickin'...I just hope they don't break him down because I love the horse...
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Like they say the only thing bigger than Ramsey's waistline is his ego....
Isn't this the horse that Frankel took over from someone else and promised Ramsey he would get a Grade I win....

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Like they say the only thing bigger than Ramsey's waistline is his ego....
Isn't this the horse that Frankel took over from someone else and promised Ramsey he would get a Grade I win....

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Old 10-18-2006, 10:11 PM
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This is classic Ken Ramsey...mark it down....there is a Breeders' Cup at his hime track that he is the perennial leading owner at and he wants a runner on the day....period
I got ridiculed for saying the same thing about Nolan's Cat being lock city on Derby Day, it was one of the many points I was making about why he was lock city
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Is this any crazier than when Da Hoss was entered into the BC Mile in 1998?
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This is classic Ken Ramsey...mark it down....there is a Breeders' Cup at his hime track that he is the perennial leading owner at and he wants a runner on the day....period

I've seen this move before by him....Frankel is a phenonminal layoff trainer and this horse is IMMENSELY talented when he's right, but he can't be really expected to fire off the shelf against these.....

They had him ready to stand at Ramsey's farm for $12,500 this year before he dominated in his first start on the grass in his seasonal finale last year on the west coast and they changed their mind and decided to wait one more year and go for the Breeders' Cup this year (he is out of a Silver Hawk mare)...Well, its been an adventurous campaign with ZERO starts (which explains how unsound he's been) and now they are trying to get their moneys worth since they had to sit on him all year after they unretired him.....

I knew this colt like the back of my hand from my Fair Grounds days when Werner had him...he's an absolute freak and one of the best horses in the country when he's right, but he is one of the most fragile horses I think I've ever seen...this horse has a bad throat, screws in almost every inch of his cannon bone, bad feet and he is still kickin'...I just hope they don't break him down because I love the horse...
Agree with this 100%.
If he goes, i'm very curious at a big price. I don't think Frankel would send him if he weren't ready to go... i could be wrong though.
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:14 AM
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Frankel can't win Breeders Cup races with clear favorites, so no confidence in taking him with a bomb here.
intercontinental won the turf when everyone thought she was a miler at best..

how many bc races has he won now?

badge of silver has run on turf in the past, when at his best he's good. i'd like to see him do well--and of course he'll get some exposure, as no doubt he'll retire this year, press won't hurt him a bit.
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