HR 358 Protect Life Act

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It's the part of the bill that releases hospitals from EMTALA requirements. But that doesn't matter any more. Because ...

The Republicans got all puffy and changed the House rules this session to read that no bill can be introduced without citing the "constitutional authority" to permit it's introduction (a bow to the Tea Party)

In committee, this bill was challenged Friday by a Democrat on point of order, as this "constitutional authority" wasn't listed on this Republican bill as the Republicans now require.

Apparently, there isn't one

So the bill has to be withdrawn until the Republicans can come up with something

BWAAAHAAAAAA Oh, you funny Republicans, you're gonna shoot yourselves in the back all by yourselves You guys are just not good at this whole "governing" thing.

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/oop...onents-forget-

Do you have a problem with the Constitution? Or just the "Tea Party?" Repubs? I'm happy they are at least acknowledging that there is, in fact, a Constitution that limits their ability to make or change Laws at whim. You think it's funny that it bit the Repubs, I'm amazed that a Dem realized it. Good for both of them. It's a good start when these Scam Artists have to admit they don't have the authority to do what they are trying to do. It will bite the Dems too, Riot! Be patient!

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Do you have a problem with the Constitution? Or just the "Tea Party?" Repubs? I'm happy they are at least acknowledging that there is, in fact, a Constitution that limits their ability to make or change Laws at whim. You think it's funny that it bit the Repubs, I'm amazed that a Dem realized it. Good for both of them. It's a good start when these Scam Artists have to admit they don't have the authority to do what they are trying to do. It will bite the Dems too, Riot! Be patient!

Did you forgot that Riot is a Republican hater? Her Dems can do no wrong.

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Originally Posted by Riot

Did you forgot that Riot is a Republican hater? Her Dems can do no wrong.

Why are you a deliberate liar, Nascar?

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Do you have a problem with the Constitution? Or just the "Tea Party?" Repubs? I'm happy they are at least acknowledging that there is, in fact, a Constitution that limits their ability to make or change Laws at whim. You think it's funny that it bit the Repubs, I'm amazed that a Dem realized it. Good for both of them. It's a good start when these Scam Artists have to admit they don't have the authority to do what they are trying to do. It will bite the Dems too, Riot! Be patient!

Excuse me, but nobody is talking about the Constitution here. We are talking about the daily working rules the Congress follows in-house. They are set by the Speaker at the start of each Congress.

This year, to placate the Tea Party, the Republicans made a rule that every bill introduced in the House has to have the "Constitutional authority" outlined and attached to the bill.

The Republicans can't even follow their own rules - aside from setting themselves up with a remarkably silly rule that will be difficult to follow anyway Name the "constitutional authority" for restricting a womans right to have an abortion?

This is why the Founding Fathers gave us three divisions of government, the Judicial being quite important as a brake to the Legislative. It is not the responsibility of the Legislative branch to determine constitutionality. So I guess just making that house rule is kinda in breach of the Constitution? Confusing, eh? <vbg>

And yes, I do have a problem with Tea Party members, because they seem to ignore those parts of the Constitution they don't like. And much of the Bill of Rights.

[Nascar1966]

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Originally Posted by Riot

Excuse me, but nobody is talking about the Constitution here. We are talking about the daily working rules the Congress follows in-house. They are set by the Speaker at the start of each Congress.

This year, to placate the Tea Party, the Republicans made a rule that every bill introduced in the House has to have the "Constitutional authority" outlined and attached to the bill.

The Republicans can't even follow their own rules - aside from setting themselves up with a remarkably silly rule that will be difficult to follow anyway

And yes, I do have a problem with Tea Party members, because they seem to ignore those parts of the Constitution they don't like. And much of the Bill of Rights.

Did the Dems always follow the rules?

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Did the Dems always follow the rules?

Their own legislative house rules? I don't know. You check on that and get back to us.

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Originally Posted by Riot

Excuse me, but nobody is talking about the Constitution here. If you had bothered to read the link you'd know that before commenting. We are talking about the daily working rules the Congress follows in-house. They are set by the Speaker at the start of each Congress.

This year, to placate the Tea Party, the Republicans made a rule that every bill introduced in the House has to have the "Constitutional authority" outlined and attached to the bill.

The Republicans can't even follow their own rules - aside from setting themselves up with a remarkably silly rule that will be difficult to follow anyway

When you mentioned "CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY" we started talking about the CONSTITUTION. I get the jist about what you are talking about . I looked over the link. For cripes sake Riot I don't have 3 days and a team of lawyers standing by to tell me what it says( to paraphrase one Dem Congressman) I'm asking a question because it seems you don't like the new rule. I think it's great!

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I was commenting on your comment.

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Originally Posted by Riot

I'm asking a question because it seems you don't like the new rule. I think it's great!

No, I have no problem with the Constitution. I kind of like it, myself

[Nascar1966]

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

When you mentioned "CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY" we started talking about the CONSTITUTION. I get the jist about what you are talking about . I looked over the link. For cripes sake Riot I don't have 3 days and a team of lawyers standing by to tell me what it says( to paraphrase one Dem Congressman) I'm asking a question because it seems you don't like the new rule. I think it's great!

Riot doesnt like the rule because it is Republican sponsored.

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I love the rule. They were supposed to be following the Big C all along.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I love the rule. They were supposed to be following the Big C all along.

How have "they" not?

As I said, it is not the responsibility of the Legislative Branch of our government to presume or assume to determine "constitutionality". That is the job of the Judicial Branch.

So the Legislative Branch ought to follow the Constitution, no?

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Originally Posted by Riot

How have "they" not?

As I said, it is not the responsibility of the Legislative Branch of our government to presume or assume to determine "constitutionality". That is the job of the Judicial Branch.

So the Legislative Branch ought to follow the Constitution, no?

The Legislators are my Frikkin Servants. They are not in the Boss Position. I pay them to not waste their time and my money not pushing forward Legislation without first thinking about having the Authority, given them by the people, to push it forward. The courts have enough to do without having to BABYSIT Congress's every move.

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Originally Posted by Riot

How have "they" not?

As I said, it is not the responsibility of the Legislative Branch of our government to presume or assume to determine "constitutionality". That is the job of the Judicial Branch.

So the Legislative Branch ought to follow the Constitution, no?

When the Fed (Legislative Branch ) files suit against one of its own States for helping out and enforcing a Federal law. Houston we have a problem!

Just like the Fed required Louisiana barges to be inspected for life preservers before they headed out to clean up a catastrophe, to the tune of 3 days. Wouldn't want anyone to drown in oil. LMAO

BTW Thank God Mother Nature went to work and instead of the dead sea predicted by the same who wouldn't let the barges out is in fact back in business and the shrimp be all good!