Bombaguia

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Help me understand then. What about a horse like Battle Of Hastings? Horrible underlay because of a bad trip, what did he do? I just dont think its that simple. If a bad horse has a bad trip it does not mean you simply bet him back off that trip. You need to understand the race, the conditions and everything else that goes with it. Or this horse for example has already had bad wide trips, and just continues to have them.

Seriously, what are you talking about?

It's not about bad horses or good horses. If you really want to try and understand, the quality of the animal does not matter.

You're right, it isn't simple, but it's also not that confusing if you would just shut up and listen to what people are saying. The horse was making his first start on grass. He had shown speed previously and on Sunday found himself far back early. He made a pretty solid run around the turn and passed 7 horses in the matter of a few seconds. That is not typically the kind of move you see winning, however it was a very encouraging run.

Now, if he shows up in a stake next time, or if he's 6/5 in a maiden race, yeah, he's not the kind of horse you bet back. But if he's a fair price, he's the kind of horse you want to bet back, because of his run.

That is the point of this room. To discuss trip horses. No one is suggesting betting each of these horses with both fists. It's an exchange of ideas about horses. It's not a good vs bad list.

What is so confusing about this?

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Seriously, what are you talking about?

It's not about bad horses or good horses. If you really want to try and understand, the quality of the animal does not matter.

You're right, it isn't simple, but it's also not that confusing if you would just shut up and listen to what people are saying. The horse was making his first start on grass. He had shown speed previously and on Sunday found himself far back early. He made a pretty solid run around the turn and passed 7 horses in the matter of a few seconds. That is not typically the kind of move you see winning, however it was a very encouraging run.

Now, if he shows up in a stake next time, or if he's 6/5 in a maiden race, yeah, he's not the kind of horse you bet back. But if he's a fair price, he's the kind of horse you want to bet back, because of his run.

That is the point of this room. To discuss trip horses. No one is suggesting betting each of these horses with both fists. It's an exchange of ideas about horses. It's not a good vs bad list.

What is so confusing about this?

EXACTLY! Trip handicapping is an art, not a science, and we all won't necessarilly agree on what is a good or bad trip. The idea is to put up a horse and a race here, watch it, and then discuss and decide for yourself. That is how you learn. That's the value of this room.

I won't start a new thread, but I'll throw out another name and race: McDuffie from Santa Anita's 5th race on Sunday. I put him on my watch list.

[Dahoss]

Bombaguia is back on Saturday in the 7th with Prado back aboard. Very tough and contentious race.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Bombaguia is back on Saturday in the 7th with Prado back aboard. Very tough and contentious race.

Prado staying on doesn't thrill me, but we'll see.

By the way, McDuffie is back in Friday's last race at SA.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by golfer

Prado staying on doesn't thrill me, but we'll see.

By the way, McDuffie is back in Friday's last race at SA.

Trip horses galore the next few days.

[golfer]

Very disappointing 2nd for McDuffie, from my very biased viewpoint, seemed that Talamo got caught sleeping at the top of the stretch, couldn't recover.

On to Bombaguia, can't wait to see what Prado has in store for this one

[Dahoss]

Another Prado special. Why so intent on making the lead? And why was he back on the horse?