Olbermann Leaves ‘Countdown’ on MSNBC

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Him and Bill Maher two best things on political TV.

Oh well..down to one

Maher is very watchable if for nothing more than his guests. Olbermann was and is a tool so I have no idea what you found entertaining about him.

[Riot]

I didn't watch Olbermann much (like Maher, I find him a bit too inflammatory at times for a regular diet) but the difference between Olbermann and Beck was that Olbermann didn't lie. He may have gone off on the right (and left), but it was fact-based.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

I didn't watch Olbermann much (like Maher, I find him a bit too inflammatory at times for a regular diet) but the difference between Olbermann and Beck was that Olbermann didn't lie. He may have gone off on the right (and left), but it was fact-based.

Utterly ridiculous

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Utterly ridiculous

Really? Go ahead, prove it wrong. Prove that Olbermann lied frequently. Compare how many entries Beck has at Politifact to Olbermann.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

Really? Go ahead, prove it wrong. Prove that Olbermann lied frequently. Compare how many entries Beck has at Politifact to Olbermann.

Riot there is no need to prove anything. I have eyes and ears. The thing that bleeding hearts like yourself do all the time is comparison shopping with your views. Therefore, a discussion of Obama comes with the caveat, he's better than Bush...and a discussion of Olbermann, well you have to bring in Beck....Point is, stay on topic, you'll do better that way.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Riot there is no need to prove anything. I have eyes and ears. The thing that bleeding hearts like yourself do all the time is comparison shopping with your views. Therefore, a discussion of Obama comes with the caveat, he's better than Bush...and a discussion of Olbermann, well you have to bring in Beck....Point is, stay on topic, you'll do better that way.

You have eyes and ears, but they are misleading you badly based upon your preassumptions. The right loves to diss Olbermann as the lefty Beck, and there's nothing at all wrong with my pointing that out. Even if you don't like that, and have to insult me to distract from it.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

You have eyes and ears, but they are misleading you badly based upon your preassumptions. The right loves to diss Olbermann as the lefty Beck, and there's nothing at all wrong with my pointing that out. Even if you don't like that, and have to insult me to distract from it.

I in no way insulted you. There is no need to.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Really? Go ahead, prove it wrong. Prove that Olbermann lied frequently. Compare how many entries Beck has at Politifact to Olbermann.

possibly because nothing that olbermann says is noteworthy??

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Maher is very watchable if for nothing more than his guests. Olbermann was and is a tool so I have no idea what you found entertaining about him.

Okay, I'll bite, though full disclosure, my regular viewing of Olbermann lasted about two weeks (I don't get off on the anger rush that right-wingers do, which is why Rush and Beck, et al are so popular with them, and Olbermann was a left-leaning dose of anger rush. I find it exhausting and will take Maddow's snark over it, thanks):

Countdown was 8 years old, and had run its course- when I did tune in this year, it was a pretty tired format. That said, when it debuted, Olbermann was the ONLY political commentator pointing out that the Iraq war was a big, horrible boondoggle that our government lied its way into. The only one. And that's no real credit to MSNBC, as they cancelled their highest-rated program, Phil Donohue's show, when he wouldn't water-carry for the Bush administration in the lead-up to the war. Rising news star Ashleigh Banleigh was also fired by MSNBC for a speech she made about the way cable media was spinning the war.

But, as it becomes clear that "Mission Accomplished" was destined to become a punch line to a sick joke that has killed 4000 young soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians, MSNBC put Olbermann on the air and for those of us who thought that Bush's claim that the war would be fast, cost about $80 billion dollars and that we'd be greeted as liberators (remember all that? Probably not; the right doesn't want you to remember prior to Obama's election when apparently the deficit suddenly sprang into existence because I don't recall a single right-winger here mentioning it until FOX news told them to). Where was I? Oh, right. Anyway, finally there was one voice in the media saying what the Bush Administration was doing was bullsh*t.

So that's why people watched him. Because he was the only place you could go to get any that wasn't GOP propaganda.

Maher is a misogynist (though I usually enjoy "New Rules"), but I love when he goes off on what bunk religion is. Especially when he has a tool like Andrew Sullivan on the guest panel. Pass the popcorn.