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Old 11-23-2010, 07:31 PM
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I don't know much about min pins
I know Dobermans are real sweet hearts

and I know that real dogs never win dog shows

real dogs are

Labs, Rottweilers etc
you know big happy dogs

not little carpet crappers
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:42 AM
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and I know that real dogs never win dog shows

real dogs are

Labs, Rottweilers etc
you know big happy dogs

not little carpet crappers
I know the # of dogs of each breed that have won at least 1 Dog Show in a particular year. I can't tell ya if they won more than one show. Probably some won 2 (or more) in a year. You've mentioned two breeds that seem to vary quite a bit in the number of dogs winning all breed dog shows. in 2009, 3 different Rotts won Dog Shows. So far, in 2010, 9 different Rotts have won dog shows. In 2009, 7 Labs won dog shows. So far, in 2010, only 1 Lab has won a dog show (whether he won more than 1, I don't know.)

2009-
7-Retriever (Labrador)
3- Rottweiler

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2010-
1- Retriever (Labrador)
9- Rottweiler

I think what you're referring to is the 2 major type dog shows that are held. The 2nd biggest dog show in the country is the Eukauba National. Here are the last 4 best of show winners:

Scottish Terrier
Pointer
Sealyham Terrier
English Springer Spaniel

Unfortunately, it's the medium sized dogs of limited popularity that seem (to me) to be over represented. The terrier, pointer, slightly obscure spaniel is typical of what they seem to pick. Far as the "real dog" types that you're talking about, I'd say the Doberman has been well represented, and the others are under represented. I'm talking about the 2 biggest dog shows in the country. Each week there seems to be 4-8 mixed breed dog shows, and they seem to have a good mix of winners. I've had my fill of the less popular terrier, spaniel, pointer types winning the 2 best shows. It's tired.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:16 AM
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I don't know much about min pins
Well, they were bred by the Germans. Their job is to hunt down rats, grab them by the neck, and shake them until they're dead. They may be cute, but they don't know it, or care. They think they are big dogs. They seem to have no fear of anything. I know the video above shows a lil dog running with cute action. These are not scared lil toy dogs. They are aggressive watchdogs. They are smart, but have very short attention spans. They don't want to do tricks. They want to eat(too much,) play hard, stay warm, and explode towards any suspicious sound they hear. They are real dogs in smaller bodies. They seem at home in dark spaces. Most likely that comes from the Germans needing a small dog to get into the dark small spaces rats can fit into.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCupOXAitiU

^^That's the best example (on the net) of a minpin. They are usually larger than the little bitch in the video above. This video is typical. They aren't afraid of larger dogs. They also take every cheap shot opportunity that comes their way. That Dobie stops paying attention for just a moment, and the minpin takes advantage. These are intense dogs. People who think they are getting a typical lil toy dog will be highly challenged when they get home. They will find a way to play. This is not a Poodle etc.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7SgT11PwXo&NR=1
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:00 AM
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The Labrador Retriever is the most registered dog in the country. The Rottweiler is the 13th most registered dog. The Golden Retriever is the 3rd or 4th most registered dog. None of these breeds has won the biggest dog show in the country (Westminster.) This English Springer Spaniel breed has won it 6 times. So, yes, the Spaniels, Terriers, and Poodles have an advantage going in.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:13 PM
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She now has won the Toy Group in a show 23 times. Yesterday's was in a Montgomery,Alabama show. BTW a Rott named "TUX" won his career 15th Best in Show yesterday. So, "real dogs" are winning dog shows, but not the 2 or 3 shows that are on T.V.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:23 PM
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It is difficult to take working dogs of their breed, with outstanding performance conformation, and win at dog shows (I know because I breed, show and hunt my dogs, and one of my dogs qualified for the Euk National two years ago) Those are "real dogs", to me.

I have a hard time watching some of the rings nowadays, seeing straight-upper-armed, too long, sloped-backed, sickle-hocked dogs win There is a specific conformation for "successful show dogs", and it often has little to do with the history and skills of the breed, unfortunately

The commentators at the Euk mentioned the Scottish Deerhound having a visibly different type of movement. Yeah, totally incorrect ...

Min Pins are very cool dogs, though. Certainly agree with you on that! And this little one is exceptional. Yes, for a Min Pin to win so many BIS (even groups) is outstanding tro:
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It is difficult to take working dogs of their breed, with outstanding performance conformation, and win at dog shows (I know because I breed, show and hunt my dogs, and one of my dogs qualified for the Euk National two years ago) Those are "real dogs", to me.

I have a hard time watching some of the rings nowadays, seeing straight-upper-armed, too long, sloped-backed, sickle-hocked dogs win There is a specific conformation for "successful show dogs", and it often has little to do with the history and skills of the breed, unfortunately

The commentators at the Euk mentioned the Scottish Deerhound having a visibly different type of movement. Yeah, totally incorrect ...

Min Pins are very cool dogs, though. Certainly agree with you on that! And this little one is exceptional. Yes, for a Min Pin to win so many BIS (even groups) is outstanding tro:


How many wuffies have you fucl<ed...and what breeds were they?
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She won't answer.

Like many others here, she fears me.




I'll bet her wuffie name is Assie.
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