Uncle Mo faster than BC Classic field on Ragozin

[randallscott35]

So I go away for the weekend, and the dumb argument dujour is would a 2yr old have won the classic? Is this to support Doug's argument that Mo should be HOY?---OCD on Moss, Unlce Mo, the Pats etc...As if there is nothing else.

[The Bid]

Why wouldn't he have won the classic? The ragsheet said hes fast enough

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

So I go away for the weekend, and the dumb argument dujour is would a 2yr old have won the classic? Is this to support Doug's argument that Mo should be HOY?---OCD on Moss, Unlce Mo, the Pats etc...As if there is nothing else.

Have people lost the ability to read? Where did I, or anyone, say that Mo would have won the Classic??

The only thing DrugS said is that he got a faster rag number, which to me, is meaningless. I already knew going in that Mo was a great 2yo and the Classic field was pretty suspect.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Have people lost the ability to read? Where did I, or anyone, say that Mo would have won the Classic??

The only thing DrugS said is that he got a faster rag number, which to me, is meaningless. I already knew going in that Mo was a great 2yo and the Classic field was pretty suspect.

I wasn't talking to you.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

So I go away for the weekend, and the dumb argument dujour is would a 2yr old have won the classic? Is this to support Doug's argument that Mo should be HOY?---OCD on Moss, Unlce Mo, the Pats etc...As if there is nothing else.

This whole thread is silly, Arazi, who was far more impressive than Mo was in the Juvie, would he have won the classic that year also? BTW Arazi finished an electrifying 8th in the derby. That sort of throws cold water over this entire premise...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

This whole thread is silly, Arazi, who was far more impressive than Mo was in the Juvie, would he have won the classic that year also? BTW Arazi finished an electrifying 8th in the derby. That sort of throws cold water over this entire premise...

Arazi was handled incompetently, which you already know. He had no shot in the Derby with the way he was brought into the race.

The move he made in the BCJ was more electrifying and was more visually impressive than what Mo did, but it's ridiculous to say he was far more impressive.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Arazi was handled incompetently, which you already know. He had no shot in the Derby with the way he was brought into the race.

The move he made in the BCJ was more electrifying and was more visually impressive than what Mo did, but it's ridiculous to say he was far more impressive.

Arazi probably didn't want to go 1 1/4 more than any factor, all of his best races were at or near 1 mile. That's just one problem with this argument, how far does Uncle Mo want to go? Not to mention the subtle differences in pace pressures with more mature and seasoned horses.

Arazi's juvie will probably never be matched, consider he ran by Bertrando on his wrong lead like he was standing tied to a pole, that is something no sheets or beyers can illustrate, it was purely freakish in nature.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by CSC

This whole thread is silly, Arazi, who was far more impressive than Mo was in the Juvie, would he have won the classic that year also? BTW Arazi finished an electrifying 8th in the derby. That sort of throws cold water over this entire premise...

Bringing-up Arazi is risky. Arazi ran pretty big in the Derby considering how he was brought into the race.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Bringing-up Arazi is risky. Arazi ran pretty big in the Derby considering how he was brought into the race.

If the Derby was at a mile, you would have a point. How about Johannesburg, one prep, well you can win the derby on 2 preps now. He simply didn't project into a 3 year old, nor was he a 1 1/4 horse. Give them 2 preps and I would still have my doubts.

[HaloWishingwell]

If I remember correctly Arazi also came off not only one prep but had some surgery as well after his Juvenile win.

[Indian Charlie]

Arazi's 'prep' was no more than a mere public workout. It was a gallop against the equivalent of 50k claimers.