Urgent info for Zenyatta fans

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

By what logic on this planet would Zenyatta not be considered a great race horse if she wins the race on Saturday? I'm mystified by that. Sure, she could lose and she may hate the Churchill dirt. It's nearly impossible for me to post in the racing forum, but it's pretty comical. I can guarantee you if Z happens to win this race within 0.3 seconds after the race will come the first post on how it was a horrible Classic field by standards and it was completely meaningless. And it logically follows that the person who posts that first should absolutely be betting her with both fists if that is indeed the case.

Who was saying it's going to be a great Classic?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Who was saying it's going to be a great Classic?

I think it's a somewhat poor field overall. I just think if she wins, it is what it is and she can certainly be considered a "great" horse. I learned my lesson last year. I thought she was vastly overrated based on the crap she was facing and her very slow synthetic races. She turned it up when she needed to and blasted what in all liklihood was a sub standard field. In the end if she wins it, she's pretty good historically. Whether that's top 10, top 30, top 50 or top 100 is for smarter people than me to discuss. I have zero reason to think she won't run as well as she did in the Classic last year.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think it's a somewhat poor field overall. I just think if she wins, it is what it is and she can certainly be considered a "great" horse. I learned my lesson last year. I thought she was vastly overrated based on the crap she was facing and her very slow synthetic races. She turned it up when she needed to and blasted what in all liklihood was a sub standard field. In the end if she wins it, she's pretty good historically. Whether that's top 10, top 30, top 50 or top 100 is for smarter people than me to discuss. I have zero reason to think she won't run as well as she did in the Classic last year.

I agree with all of what you said except the last line. Last year she ran at a familiar track and on a surface that she had won at many times. And without a cross-country plane trip.

Even if one considers Zenyatta as good as any other horse in the race, we'll be getting 2, 3, or 4 times the odds on LAL, Blame, and QR. I got burned last year, but I'm going in full blast again this year.

--Dunbar

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

nice call coach..

tvg message boards implode..

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I think it's a somewhat poor field overall. I just think if she wins, it is what it is and she can certainly be considered a "great" horse. I learned my lesson last year. I thought she was vastly overrated based on the crap she was facing and her very slow synthetic races. She turned it up when she needed to and blasted what in all liklihood was a sub standard field. In the end if she wins it, she's pretty good historically. Whether that's top 10, top 30, top 50 or top 100 is for smarter people than me to discuss. I have zero reason to think she won't run as well as she did in the Classic last year.

I have no idea how long you've been watching these races, but from someone who has been watching these races since 1989 you are way off base.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I have no idea how long you've been watching these races, but from someone who has been watching these races since 1989 you are way off base.

way off base on what? I thought she pretty much ran as well as she did last year. way off base that she faced crap the last two years other than this race? way off base in being wrong thinking she was overrated last year?? Where on earth am I off base?

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

way off base on what? I thought she pretty much ran as well as she did last year. way off base that she faced crap the last two years other than this race? way off base in being wrong thinking she was overrated last year?? Where on earth am I off base?

Ok...You made my point. Thanks!

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Ok...You made my point. Thanks!

so your stance is this....

So she ran a poor race this year. got it

she faced great horses this year and last year in her non BC races. got it

it was correct for me to overrate her going into the BC last year and not bet her. Got it.

You are interesting in your thought process.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

so your stance is this....

So she ran a poor race this year. got it

she faced great horses this year and last year in her non BC races. got it

it was correct for me to overrate her going into the BC last year and not bet her. Got it.

You are interesting in your thought process.

The weak classic thing my friend is a little off base, but you don't want to hear much different. Got it?