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Old 10-31-2010, 12:12 AM
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Food Plain,Together and Theyskens Theory.
Theyskens' Theory is running in the JF, Flood Plain is nothing special and did you watch Together's Tattersalls race? Not the kind of performance I want to take a short price after. Tale Untold's the only Euro that interests me, but Winter Memories wins rather easily in my mind.
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:27 AM
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Theyskens' Theory is running in the JF, Flood Plain is nothing special and did you watch Together's Tattersalls race? Not the kind of performance I want to take a short price after. Tale Untold's the only Euro that interests me, but Winter Memories wins rather easily in my mind.

Maybe Im reaching? Im just not thrilled at taking even money on a 2yr old american grass filly. Tale Untold is the one I dont like.

I know we are not supposed to use turf beyers, but dident Allure D' Amour run almost the same race as Winter Memories?
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Old 10-31-2010, 01:12 AM
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Maybe Im reaching? Im just not thrilled at taking even money on a 2yr old american grass filly. Tale Untold is the one I dont like.

I know we are not supposed to use turf beyers, but dident Allure D' Amour run almost the same race as Winter Memories?
She won't be anywhere near even money, and she's scary good. I think it's more likely More Than Real beats her than Together or Flood Plain.
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Old 10-31-2010, 01:22 AM
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If Giralamo goes off favored I think he is the most vulnerable favorite on the card on Saturday. I think I can make a case for pretty much anyone in the Sprint other than Pashito the Che and Wise Dan. I think whomever wins that race is going to have to have a bit of a rating gear and I am going to bet a little on Hamazing Destiny who has been pretty damn good when running over a fast strip at 6F with a reasonable break. If he can get that and run his "A" race he should be right there off his 107 figure at CD at 6F.

As for least vulnerable favorite on Saturday I don't really see any way that Workforce loses as long as he shows up with his normal races, except for the dud he threw in the King George, his Epsom Derby and Arc are just way too good, and in a P4 situation he is a stand horse for me. Goldikova is a close second but not first because although Paco Boy has never beaten her, he's been closer to her than the others have been to Workforce.

As for horse who I think is the most likeliest winner on Saturday I would say it's Grand Adventure, who I think crushes if he runs back to his Nearctic or Connaught Cup. I think Frostad has found what he wants to do and that's sprint on the grass, he can run any way you ask him to and yeah he lost to Silver Timber last year but this year's Silver Timber has lost a step while this year's Grand Adventure has clearly improved big time.

On Friday, I think the most vulnerable favorite is Winter Memories if she goes off at the odds most expect. In fact I think the Juvenile Fillies turf may the be the most open race on the entire card on Friday, and think it's a scramble with Allure D'Amour, Fancy Point, Flood Plain, Kathmanblu, More Than Real, New Normal, Quiet Oasis, Tale Untold, and Together all having races that are as good as Winter Memories. I have to say I like New Normal's progression and think her last was very, very good.

I think the least vulnerable Friday favorite is Midday who's best race is probably too good for all in here, including Red Desire, and North America's best hope, which to me is Miss Keller who I will be using in both slots underneath Midday with various others. I just think if Midday shows up with her best, it's going to be awfully tough to beat her. To me Plumania is just ok, and our F&M Turf horses are just not very good to be quite frank.

I think the most likeliest winner on Friday is obviously Midday but the decent priced horse who I think has the best upset chance on Friday is Secret Gypsy who fired a big shot the last time she went 7F at Churchill Downs and is in very good form coming in, and should sit a really nice trip in here off Rightly So and can power home in the stretch and make them come get her in a wide open renewal of the Filly and Mare Sprint.
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:58 PM
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Maybe Im reaching? Im just not thrilled at taking even money on a 2yr old american grass filly. Tale Untold is the one I dont like.

I know we are not supposed to use turf beyers, but dident Allure D' Amour run almost the same race as Winter Memories?
I'm sure everyone saw the Miss Grillo. Winter Memories was running second to last in the 1-1/16 race, when they were went an ordinary 49 and change for the half. She had to go 6 or 7 wide and still effortlessly won.
She doesn't even have to move up off of that performance to win next Friday, if you ask me. She already proved she doesn't need a perfect trip to win.
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Old 10-31-2010, 04:09 PM
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Goldi (still the likely winner, just a tough looking race)
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Old 10-31-2010, 04:16 PM
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I know we are not supposed to use turf beyers, but dident Allure D' Amour run almost the same race as Winter Memories?
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Old 10-31-2010, 04:50 PM
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I'm comfortable with Quality Road as a solid fav .
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I'm comfortable with Quality Road as a solid fav .

Cue the tomatoes.
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LOL I hope he is the favorite. Means plenty of money to win
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:33 AM
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LOL I hope he is the favorite. Means plenty of money to win


Wont Zenyatta be th chalk ?
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:54 AM
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most vulnerable... any fav that draws in the double digit starting holes.
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:04 AM
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Wont Zenyatta be th chalk ?
I would think.
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Old 10-31-2010, 05:37 PM
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Winter Memories is going to be overbet off of a race that really might not be much, if at all better than Kathmanblu's Jessamine or the Natalma.
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Does anyone possess a link where I could find out what the best wagers of past year's BC's have been? (i.e. - rolling p3's, DD's, ex, tri's . . .)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance.
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Does anyone possess a link where I could find out what the best wagers of past year's BC's have been? (i.e. - rolling p3's, DD's, ex, tri's . . .)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance.
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:59 PM
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Does anyone possess a link where I could find out what the best wagers of past year's BC's have been? (i.e. - rolling p3's, DD's, ex, tri's . . .)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance.
I have not downloaded a copy yet for this year, but the express bet wagering guide usually has some of the info you are looking for.
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Does anyone possess a link where I could find out what the best wagers of past year's BC's have been? (i.e. - rolling p3's, DD's, ex, tri's . . .)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance.
Call me crazy, but isn't that like handicapping the fifth race with the fourth race past performances? Inconsequential.
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