Some preliminary BC thoughts

[Smooth Operator]

Dead serious, Rock

B looks like the most likely winner at this point…

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Dead serious, Rock

B looks like the most likely winner at this point…

If your going to jump off Z, why not with QR or L@L...
You have to take a stand somewhere to make $, mine is Blame.

[RockHardTen1985]

I am really curious to see how people will respond to this...

Why can Blame handle 10f? Because they say he can. Is that not the reasson he was such a heavy chalk in the JCGC, because he is supposed to relish 10f and they wanted to get him going long and blah blah... Then he runs like **** IMO.

Z can get it. Lucky is more proven then Blame to get it IMO.

QR, well QR has run a race at 10f that might be good enough to win this thing, but people still question the distance. What was wrong with his JCGC last year? Im really curious of this? Why is Blame wanting this such a given. The way he is always hard ridden, and his plodding grinding style IMO is not suited for 10f chasing QR and with the runs L@L and Z will surely come with. Of the big 4, Blame is most likely not to show up IMO.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I am really curious to see how people will respond to this...

Why can Blame handle 10f? Because they say he can. Is that not the reasson he was such a heavy chalk in the JCGC, because he is supposed to relish 10f and they wanted to get him going long and blah blah... Then he runs like **** IMO.

Z can get it. Lucky is more proven then Blame to get it IMO.

QR, well QR has run a race at 10f that might be good enough to win this thing, but people still question the distance. What was wrong with his JCGC last year? Im really curious of this? Why is Blame wanting this such a given. The way he is always hard ridden, and his plodding grinding style IMO is not suited for 10f chasing QR and with the runs L@L and Z will surely come with. Of the big 4, Blame is most likely not to show up IMO.

If you start out thinking he ran like s.hit, we'll probably not agree. But I didn't think his JCGC was bad. He held second, came home quick to a loose on he lead horse that loves Belmont.

Just by looking at his races it seems like he'll have no problem gettin one more furlong. Out of the 5 contenders I have in mind the only one with a slight distance concern is Quality Road. But I think Pletcher is going to have him in fine form. I think Pletcher is lining up for a real strong day (s)

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I am really curious to see how people will respond to this...

Why can Blame handle 10f? Because they say he can. Is that not the reasson he was such a heavy chalk in the JCGC, because he is supposed to relish 10f and they wanted to get him going long and blah blah... Then he runs like **** IMO.

Z can get it. Lucky is more proven then Blame to get it IMO.

QR, well QR has run a race at 10f that might be good enough to win this thing, but people still question the distance. What was wrong with his JCGC last year? Im really curious of this? Why is Blame wanting this such a given. The way he is always hard ridden, and his plodding grinding style IMO is not suited for 10f chasing QR and with the runs L@L and Z will surely come with. Of the big 4, Blame is most likely not to show up IMO.

Horse-for-the-course angle is BIG here.

JCGC turned out to be a good prep for him.

Pedigree says he can handle the trip.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why can Blame handle 10f? Because they say he can.
Z can get it. Lucky is more proven then Blame to get it IMO.

QR, well QR has run a race at 10f that might be good enough to win this thing, but people still question the distance.

Blame showed, in the JCJC, that he's not as good going 10F as going shorter. Clearly, if Fly Down was able to change leads, he'd have finished ahead of Blame. Blame probably will make the lead at some point; but he'll get run down by a legitimate 10F horse. His advantage going shorter, the ability to run against the grain, is nullified @ 10F. No doubt he'd be the horse to beat if the race were 9F or less.

Hard to believe that some are continuing to advance the argument that the JCGC was a prep. Why would he need that particular race and not the others he's run this year? Including the win off the long layoff.

LAL shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Hard to believe we're still having a discussion about QR getting 10F.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Blame showed, in the JCJC, that he's not as good going 10F as going shorter. Clearly, if Fly Down was able to change leads, he'd have finished ahead of Blame. Blame probably will make the lead at some point; but he'll get run down by a legitimate 10F horse. His advantage going shorter, the ability to run against the grain, is nullified @ 10F. No doubt he'd be the horse to beat if the race were 9F or less.

Hard to believe that some are continuing to advance the argument that the JCGC was a prep. Why would he need that particular race and not the others he's run this year? Including the win off the long layoff.

LAL shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Hard to believe we're still having a discussion about QR getting 10F.

In what sense?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

In what sense?

Clearly he is saying Lucky can get the distance and is especially dangerous because his trainer is the GOAT and his wife is Jill.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Blame showed, in the JCJC, that he's not as good going 10F as going shorter. Clearly, if Fly Down was able to change leads, he'd have finished ahead of Blame. Blame probably will make the lead at some point; but he'll get run down by a legitimate 10F horse. His advantage going shorter, the ability to run against the grain, is nullified @ 10F. No doubt he'd be the horse to beat if the race were 9F or less.

Hard to believe that some are continuing to advance the argument that the JCGC was a prep. Why would he need that particular race and not the others he's run this year? Including the win off the long layoff.

LAL shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Hard to believe we're still having a discussion about QR getting 10F.

There is a big difference between prepping and needing a race. This is basic stuff. You don't want to peak October 2nd. You want to peak Novemeber 6th. Again, basic concepts.

I don't like making definitive statements off of one race. Especially because we aren't talking about machines that run the exact same everytime they hit the track.

[2Hot4TV]

I've watched horse leave California this year and win alot of big races and that's why I will play one exacta ticket in the classic.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

If your going to jump off Z, why not with QR or L@L...
You have to take a stand somewhere to make $, mine is Blame.

Race is unplayable for me, Rock.

Have way too strong a rooting interest with Z to put serious money on B (or any of the others).

Would need to get at least 9-2 or 5-1 on her … which obviously won't happen…

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Race is unplayable for me, Rock.

Have way too strong a rooting interest with Z to put serious money on B (or any of the others).

Would need to get at least 9-2 or 5-1 on her … which obviously won't happen…

Why would you need 9-2 on what is pretty close to a sure thing? Certainly if Z runs her race and can handle dirt, the rest are racing for second place. Her place in history and her unbeaten record are on the line.