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Old 10-19-2010, 09:02 PM
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No it isn't.
Phillip Aumonte was kicked back to high A after going 1-6 with a 7.43 era in AA. He was slightly less bad in single A going 2-5 with a 4.48 era.

JC Ramirez went 3-4 with a 5.45 era in double A. He also just had hip surgery.

Tyson Gilles missed most of the season with hamstring injuries but did manage to hit .238. He also was arrested on felony cocaine possesion.

Think there are any diamonds in that rough?

The problem was that no one else thought these guys were stud prospects before the trade. Cliff Lee should net you a 5 star or upper level 4 star prospect. In football terms a first or second round pick. They got 5th rounders with issues.
I guess those names had been posted in a thread here before and I forgot. Oh well, mybe the bionic hip will help Ramirez.

I think there are some underlying issues with Cliff Lee none of us know about. Victor Martinez was one of the most liked and respected Indians ever, and Cliff Lee hated his guts. It reached the point where Lee would not even pitch to him. Martinez never caught him his last year and a half there before the trade. although not as bad as the Phils, I don't think the Indians got for him nearly what they should have either and the Phils had no hesitation getting rid of him after what he did for them gettign the guys you mentioned. It doesn't make much sense.
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